| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2024-11-30 22:16 | Shandie | lol not ready yet |
| 2024-11-30 22:16 | Rairila | classic "prep for UD by killing Ouroburos" |
| 2024-11-30 22:16 | Sumnissan | shandie |
| 2024-11-30 22:08 | Sumnissan | beckon lord qp |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Garnin | yeah i was trying to dig through that a while back, solip |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Ichiban | source: experimentation |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Solipsis | nod, there is disparate info on each race page, but kinda no sources or explanations |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Byki | i can confirm that illithid are not nofail arcane at 100% |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Byki | gnome is nofail arcane at uh 97 or 100, i forget |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Bodi | wiki lists most of that info on the "races" tab for each race |
| 2024-11-30 22:02 | Ichiban | dragons are no fail, so are elves |
| 2024-11-30 22:01 | Solipsis | i see plenty of stuff mentioning that various races are no-fail at x%, but i'm not finding anything that either lists which ones are no fail, or explains how we know they are no fail |
| 2024-11-30 21:52 | Alrin | Ah, makes sense |
| 2024-11-30 21:51 | Shandie | sorry doses is number of arrows/bolts you can make not number of times you can fletch! |
| 2024-11-30 21:50 | Alrin | neat :D |
| 2024-11-30 21:49 | Shandie | looks like the number of doses is also the number of time you can fletch with it |
| 2024-11-30 21:46 | Alrin | though; as an archer, your dmg output would be nerfed :p |
| 2024-11-30 21:46 | Alrin | if you were worshipping shizaga; that probably wouldn't have happened :p |
| 2024-11-30 21:46 | Shandie | amazing |
| 2024-11-30 21:45 | Solipsis | lolol |
| 2024-11-30 21:45 | Alrin | Yup, that can happens |
| 2024-11-30 21:45 | Shandie | lol i slipped and poisoned myself |
| 2024-11-30 21:45 | Alrin | fletch bolts poison fang |
| 2024-11-30 21:44 | Shandie | ok cool, also do you happen to remember how to make the item into the poison? |
| 2024-11-30 21:43 | Alrin | e.g., start with biotoxin to hopefully apply stat debuffs before attempting virus then switching to explosives :) |
| 2024-11-30 21:43 | Alrin | biotoxin is to apply stat-debuffs (which should reduce UD's damage by a good bit) and virus to hopefully do a % of hp dmg per tic |
| 2024-11-30 21:42 | Shandie | gotcha ok |
| 2024-11-30 21:42 | Alrin | You probably only need 15ish bolts of each b/c you don't want to go more than 3 rounds per poisoning attempt in combat b/c they aren't going to do a lot of dmg per round and you'll want to be on explosives within 5-6 rounds of starting the fight |
| 2024-11-30 21:41 | Shandie | gotcha I will experiment |
| 2024-11-30 21:41 | Alrin | I think the # of arrows made (like 12-18?) consumes it? |
| 2024-11-30 21:41 | Shandie | gotcha ok |
| 2024-11-30 21:41 | Alrin | that's how many doses you'd put on a melee weapon |
| 2024-11-30 21:41 | Alrin | I forget how fletching poison arrows consume poisons |
| 2024-11-30 21:40 | Shandie | so I have broken fangs that have virus and biotoxin now says 160 doses of one and like 40 of the other which mean i should be able to make that many bolts right? |
| 2024-11-30 21:40 | Alrin | Correct |
| 2024-11-30 21:39 | Shandie | and in order to make the poison arrows I have to have the item that has the specific poison |
| 2024-11-30 21:21 | Shandie | esp when you made this character 20 years ago when the ambassador quest didnt exist lol |
| 2024-11-30 21:21 | Alrin | can always do what One did and remort trl and kill UD at 500 with revival up :p |
| 2024-11-30 21:21 | Rauva | elf hp sooo low....good luck ..only had luck w/ low 500s on UD with a centaur....higher dam mod/more hp |
| 2024-11-30 21:20 | Alrin | yeah, but the limited supply of invinc pots :/ |
| 2024-11-30 21:20 | Radzin | i know that all too well |
| 2024-11-30 21:20 | Solipsis | but the fame, the fortune of small hero UD |
| 2024-11-30 21:18 | Alrin | if going with bolts; can make poison bolts (have separate/etched bags for the diff poison bolts since they won't be easy to distinguish otherwise) |
| 2024-11-30 21:18 | Shandie | oooooh good to know |
| 2024-11-30 21:17 | Alrin | i've also found landing a virus & biotoxin poison as an archer helps a lot |
| 2024-11-30 21:16 | Alrin | Oh, test fight use piercing; save explosives for UD |
| 2024-11-30 21:16 | Shandie | so piercing bolts/arrows are probably the way to go if i run out of explosive? |
| 2024-11-30 21:13 | Alrin | the big ouroburos in the back of that path (speedwalk past the other 2) tends to be a little tougher of a fight than the other two; i tend to use it as a good test fight |
| 2024-11-30 21:11 | Alrin | I find if you self-spell like you were gonna fight UD (sans any special potions you may have); and beat one you've got good chances against UD, but two? probably a UD win then |
| 2024-11-30 21:10 | Shandie | i have read if you can solo 2 of them in a row you should be able to take the UD |
| 2024-11-30 21:10 | Alrin | similar; it's a reasonable UD-test fight |
| 2024-11-30 21:09 | Shandie | haha and im assuming the same with UD |
| 2024-11-30 21:09 | Alrin | well, the big one is wearing a tail* :p |
| 2024-11-30 21:09 | Alrin | and is offhanding a shield and wearing a tail.... so yes |
| 2024-11-30 21:09 | Alrin | with armorancient |
| 2024-11-30 21:09 | Shandie | is the ouroburos armored? |
| 2024-11-30 21:01 | Anetra | someone else can lead, i need to sponge :D |
| 2024-11-30 21:01 | Anetra | oh im done |
| 2024-11-30 21:01 | Shandie | oh nope lord run is going |
| 2024-11-30 21:00 | Shandie | any hero runs going? |
| 2024-11-30 20:43 | Xykoi | woot |
| 2024-11-30 20:43 | Boneitis | mmm, zero sleeps until boons! |
| 2024-11-30 20:23 | Anetra | anyone else? |
| 2024-11-30 20:16 | Anetra | run@2e |
| 2024-11-30 19:37 | Anetra | anyone elsE? |
| 2024-11-30 19:32 | Anetra | run@2e |
| 2024-11-30 18:51 | Anetra | follow darkness for run |
| 2024-11-30 18:49 | Anetra | run@2e fol darkness |
| 2024-11-30 18:48 | Aloysius | just checking |
| 2024-11-30 18:48 | Anetra | i heard Darkness wants to run :D |
| 2024-11-30 18:48 | Anetra | no, no one did |
| 2024-11-30 18:48 | Setho | Is the paladin rebirth broken? Has anyone ever done it? |
| 2024-11-30 18:48 | Aloysius | did someone say mindscape |
| 2024-11-30 18:47 | Arry | sure, i'll run lord exp |
| 2024-11-30 18:46 | Setho | Is there another paladin trainer besides Gana? |
| 2024-11-30 18:46 | Transient | Is there a 3rd pal trainer other than ganastrikos and old paladin? |
| 2024-11-30 18:46 | Setho | So does the sor trainer |
| 2024-11-30 18:45 | Setho | But not the 2 pal trainers |
| 2024-11-30 18:45 | Setho | Going to tevin, he will allow me to rebirth |
| 2024-11-30 18:45 | Geralt | be vis if you aren't already |
| 2024-11-30 18:45 | Aloysius | leave and re enter room |
| 2024-11-30 18:44 | Setho | nod, tried follow on both |
| 2024-11-30 18:44 | Arry | followed? |
| 2024-11-30 18:44 | Byki | dur didnt affect melee like roixa did |
| 2024-11-30 18:44 | Imptacular | I thought the point of dur was for asn as it helped stab dmg and bow dmg |
| 2024-11-30 18:44 | Setho | Telling weaver, he said: Weaver tells you 'Your journey of rebirth continues!' - Going to both paladin trainers, old paladin or Ganastr, I've tried kneel to them, cough, follow - all while vis. Any ideas? |
| 2024-11-30 18:44 | Byki | *melee |
| 2024-11-30 18:43 | Byki | ann stab damage is great as is melle (for archer stuff at least, unsure of rogue skills) |
| 2024-11-30 18:43 | Arry | ann stab damage seemed good I thought, and doesn't nerf melee like shz |
| 2024-11-30 18:42 | Geralt | try the weaver again imo, sometimes it's fussy |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Setho | Nod, I did weaver part |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Geralt | tell weaver rebirth start or something |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Setho | Yep |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Geralt | did you start the rebirth via the weaver |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Aloysius | have to start it first |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Arry | correct @imptac |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Setho | I've been to old paladin, and ganastr, neither said anything |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Geralt | what did the pal trainer tell you |
| 2024-11-30 18:41 | Byki | no idea |
| 2024-11-30 18:40 | Setho | Anyone know who to go to, for rebirth paladin (and what to do to them?) |