| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2024-12-29 22:35 | Nefas | level of the vial, not level of the spell. for lockbox vials the best technique is to grab a bunch, then relog. whats left in your inventory will have short lag |
| 2024-12-29 22:35 | Rairila | get all.vial - quit. any that are left safe to quaff |
| 2024-12-29 22:34 | Murica | level to my knowledge |
| 2024-12-29 22:34 | Rairila | if you cant save with it |
| 2024-12-29 22:34 | Solipsis | what affects whether you get the big lag as a lowmort quaffing vials? just the level? seemed like i was able to use some and not others |
| 2024-12-29 22:26 | Dalamar | grtz |
| 2024-12-29 22:04 | Dalamar | ty tyberos!! |
| 2024-12-29 21:40 | Byki | run@2e |
| 2024-12-29 21:38 | Farot | good night all! Catch you tomorrow. |
| 2024-12-29 21:34 | Solipsis | oh, some of the quaffs from the holiday spirit are quite good for it |
| 2024-12-29 21:33 | Solipsis | *since |
| 2024-12-29 21:33 | Solipsis | i thought the whole process was pretty fun, i only killed it for the first time a couple weeks ago and have done it twice more sense |
| 2024-12-29 21:32 | Dojo | recall set at the top of the lake |
| 2024-12-29 21:32 | Solipsis | it's also easy enough to speed walk to for cr if needed |
| 2024-12-29 21:31 | Solipsis | dunno? i was always able to get out of the room |
| 2024-12-29 21:31 | Dojo | ^ if you can do 1x ouroboros - that's a good sign, if you can do 2x ina row - easy peasy. |
| 2024-12-29 21:31 | Dumbledore | isn't he a corpse eater? |
| 2024-12-29 21:31 | Solipsis | farot, a lot of people practice by trying to kill the ouroboros in lake of tears with self-spells |
| 2024-12-29 21:30 | Anila | it's timed, but I think I might have even needed to resanc mid-fight.. been a while though |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Byki | back when i did it on pyki, unsure |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Alrin | Yup |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Byki | i think it does now |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Dojo | heh have multiple shields for prs I guess |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Solipsis | the dragon has different specs for different classes, right? |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Byki | nod same |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Alrin | spr/prs charged shield was fickle, sanc fell mid-fight :p |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Anila | prs was surprisingly easier than I thought it was going to be.. just slow fight |
| 2024-12-29 21:29 | Byki | dsd cle, just dodged/charge shielded it to death |
| 2024-12-29 21:28 | Alrin | spr/prs was harrowing |
| 2024-12-29 21:28 | Byki | my fave ud fight was cleric |
| 2024-12-29 21:28 | Dojo | bci was a crapshoot for me, as deathfield and bhyss is so mean sometimes |
| 2024-12-29 21:27 | Anila | psi among easiest |
| 2024-12-29 21:27 | Dojo | fus and ripper was prob the easiest. pal and mag/sor not too bad. hardest part about mag/sor is stunlock and not being able to cast or quaff. |
| 2024-12-29 21:27 | Byki | i last did ud on Nyki, and that was long ago |
| 2024-12-29 21:27 | Solipsis | the few times i've done it recently i had to keep my dr up |
| 2024-12-29 21:26 | Solipsis | seemed like a full caster would be a bit easier because of ac gear |
| 2024-12-29 21:26 | Byki | had to relog back then, and you couldnt :P |
| 2024-12-29 21:26 | Byki | ah the days of doing ud before linkrefresh existed :P |
| 2024-12-29 21:26 | Dumbledore | well, UD isn't meant to be easy. |
| 2024-12-29 21:25 | Dojo | any class where you need linkrefresh to do your special skill: nerfed on UD |
| 2024-12-29 21:25 | Byki | was old ud though ;) |
| 2024-12-29 21:25 | Dojo | so did I - but it's not the easiest on a monk |
| 2024-12-29 21:25 | Murica | the biggest disadvantage is that damn tail |
| 2024-12-29 21:24 | Dojo | I guess stm as well |
| 2024-12-29 21:24 | Byki | i did ud on a monk |
| 2024-12-29 21:24 | Dojo | really the biggest disadvantage to UD is monk/shf and rogue/asn |
| 2024-12-29 21:24 | Dumbledore | if archers can take ud while being rxa, mages can take ud being shz |
| 2024-12-29 21:23 | Alrin | Yeah, gotta have the pracs to burn, but it's worth it :P |
| 2024-12-29 21:23 | Dojo | alrin: at the cost of about 200 pracs or more if you swap back |
| 2024-12-29 21:23 | Alrin | you can also worship gorn for spelling up then switch back to shizaga/bhyss after :p |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Dumbledore | never knew that about charge shield |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Dumbledore | i knew about the arc mods |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Dumbledore | to be honest, i never knew that. |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Dojo | the same is true for archer gear and archer mods, too |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Vellum | and what dojo said |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Dumbledore | hmmm |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Vellum | what Muri said |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Dojo | (1) the higher the shield level, the more damage flametongue will do, and (2) the max level a hero can wear is 54 |
| 2024-12-29 21:22 | Solipsis | charged shield spell damage is based on shield level |
| 2024-12-29 21:21 | Murica | 2 Namure's collars would help |
| 2024-12-29 21:21 | Dumbledore | why does the shield need to be level 54? |
| 2024-12-29 21:21 | Farot | self spell yikes |
| 2024-12-29 21:21 | Dojo | and make sure your shield is fully charged and level 54 |
| 2024-12-29 21:21 | Dojo | for UD, you'll want save gear as well, so that will nerf your AC a bit, plus it's self spell, so invinc, bark, and steel skel - will need to be via potions. your AC will be less than -1270 - more likely -1230 or so, but you'll hvae a lot of saves (hopefully) |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Pwyll | thanks vellum! |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Vellum | nog |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Dumbledore | ty vell |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Farot | this time only a year maybe |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Dumbledore | how long has it been since you last logged in? |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Farot | at some point |
| 2024-12-29 21:20 | Farot | I'm not really sure. I just want to fight the UD. |
| 2024-12-29 21:19 | Farot | thanks everyone it's always good to come back here |
| 2024-12-29 21:19 | Dojo | is that gonna be perma hero, or just on your way to lord via automorph? |
| 2024-12-29 21:19 | Dumbledore | welcome back |
| 2024-12-29 21:19 | Byki | yes! welcome back :D |
| 2024-12-29 21:19 | Farot | thanks :) |
| 2024-12-29 21:19 | Murica | Welcome back |
| 2024-12-29 21:18 | Farot | thanks :) I always forget. I play kind of infrequently and got the gear when I was in high school and college. |
| 2024-12-29 21:18 | Dojo | that's decent, should have no problem in most areas. |
| 2024-12-29 21:17 | Farot | I'm -1271 spelled |
| 2024-12-29 21:17 | Solipsis | the answer to that is always yes |
| 2024-12-29 21:17 | Dojo | -1300 is really good, -1250 is decent |
| 2024-12-29 21:17 | Farot | I'm trying to see if I should upgrade my gear. |
| 2024-12-29 21:17 | Farot | caster |
| 2024-12-29 21:17 | Dojo | monk or caster type? |
| 2024-12-29 21:16 | Farot | what's a good AC for a tank? |
| 2024-12-29 21:10 | Vellum | for a short time |
| 2024-12-29 21:10 | Vellum | they just got a bit better |
| 2024-12-29 21:10 | Byki | theyre existing right now |
| 2024-12-29 21:10 | Vellum | this boons are ok-ish... |
| 2024-12-29 20:58 | Byki | anyone else? |
| 2024-12-29 20:51 | Byki | run@2e |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Dalamar | hey paper |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Vellum | have I given everyone their holiday gift from me yet? |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Vellum | c'est va Thanos? |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Thanos | bonjour paper |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Addition | hello paper |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Oot | hi Vellum |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Alrin | Hiya Vellum |
| 2024-12-29 20:50 | Nefas | helllo |