| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Militia | must not comment |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Siveril | I just like making my numbers bigger heh |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Arcaxios | i'm kinda a mix between the two. I don't have to be 'overpowered' but I want to be able to enjoy the game too... |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Siveril | it realy doesn't much matter except possibly for sprite casters |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Militia | ^macarena |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Skia | nod nod, same |
| 2025-03-19 09:28 | Macarena | I still recommend to think more about enjoyment in the game instead of min maxing |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Skia | if you are a min max'er, like Siveril -- qxl is the choice |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Militia | ^skia |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Skia | in the long run it won't matter too much what you pick.. some would say play for the enjoyment "now" |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Militia | nod, if you wanna be a mutant wzd who does the same damage as lowlevel lord one, go qxl |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Malaclypse | what a jerk |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Arcaxios | i know I get free worship changes between levels 10-19... should I choose someone else when I level up and switch to someone else in between? |
| 2025-03-19 09:27 | Siveril | and every level at 999 until somebody fixed it |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Macarena | and +1 con from devotion |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Militia | fi the downsides give you pause, id vote shizaga |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Skia | best is relative to what your goals are |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Siveril | but qxl gets a bonus hp once every 3 levels |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Militia | if youre cool with the downsides Arcaxios, qxl is the best |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Skia | best if you accept the downsides |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Macarena | while the difference in hp vs qxl will be tiny because wzd only have a 1.5x hp multiplier |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Militia | *less |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Militia | conversely, shizaga is also a great option, but with liss hp |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Arcaxios | so you qxl is the best recommendation for sprites? |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Militia | if youre looking to maximize hp.mana gains, qxl is currently king/queen of that |
| 2025-03-19 09:26 | Macarena | and because of wzd multiplier that will add up to a lot of missed mana when you lord |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Macarena | tul wont increase your mana gains like qxl will |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Siveril | yeah but it's usueful when running places not near shift |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Militia | tul mana gains are bleh at best |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Skia | no, tul mana isn't great, tul more known for hp gains iirc |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Militia | your damage and mana will be not great as tul |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Skia | :D |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Arcaxios | if i chose tul; with a sprite i'll have great mana... Couldn't i just surge my way thru the lessened spell damage? |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Militia | thats a given :P |
| 2025-03-19 09:25 | Militia | i mean thats spell duration chuft, thats not undocument |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Macarena | but increases hp and mana gains along with increased spell damage and melee damage |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Siveril | also some undocumented upsides , or not quite undocumented, but not usually thought of, like longer immolate for sors |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Militia | better melee too! |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Skia | magic damage is not as good as other gods, but it's not too bad |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Militia | worse regen |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Malaclypse | just lower bonus than some other options |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Macarena | and increase spell duration is annoying |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Malaclypse | has a bonus to spell damage |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Macarena | qxl hurts death loss, increased spell cost, increased spell lag |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Arcaxios | but best for a srite long term since no penalty to magic damage? |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Siveril | has a number of downsides detailed in various places |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Malaclypse | bigger xp loss, yeah |
| 2025-03-19 09:24 | Arcaxios | so qxl give more hp gains but hurts more if you die? |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Malaclypse | only irl |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Militia | youre qxl :D |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Militia | shz is a lie |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Siveril | but I'm shz |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Siveril | oh |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Militia | thats because all your alts are qxl and the cast speed matches your reaction time chuft |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Malaclypse | yeah can stack up quickly with taint |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Militia | unless youre a sor and you taint yourself to 10k tnl :7 |
| 2025-03-19 09:23 | Skia | qxl is rough but worth it. have to be extra careful as a spr since the spell lag is real |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Siveril | never really struggled with qxl sprites |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Militia | at lower levels, once youre larger its not as bad |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Militia | spr/ill as qxl is... rough |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Malaclypse | but long term benefits are really nice |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Militia | nod |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Malaclypse | qxl can get frustrating if you are prone to dying |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Macarena | for spr its qxl |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Militia | *pain |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Militia | so be prepared for psin |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Skia | werredan if you want hps and really bad spell damage :) |
| 2025-03-19 09:22 | Militia | but it has a lot of drawbacks |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Arcaxios | ok qxl, i'll look into that |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Militia | quixoltan |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Arcaxios | any other recommends? |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Militia | i mean for hp sure, but for that route qxl is perferred as it doesnt nerf your spell damage asmuch, just everything else |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Macarena | qxl is sadly the only way to go |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Militia | ick |
| 2025-03-19 09:21 | Arcaxios | was also thinking that tul looked promising for worship as a spr wiz. but lessens spell damage though... |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Militia | my statement still rings true :D |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Siveril | eats your corpse and picks up your stuff :P |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Militia | you turn into chuft |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Skia | well easy cr if you speedwalk |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Wyvern | ulrich can be a useful test mob too |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Arcaxios | what is the downside? |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Siveril | ice dragon is a good test but has a downside if you lose |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Militia | if you can solo him you can do ud |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Malaclypse | so can at least be comfortable with that on subsequent run |
| 2025-03-19 09:19 | Militia | there you go Ar, do ouroboros |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Skia | ice dragon |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Malaclypse | also good to figure out how to do the maze if its your first time |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Macarena | ouroboros |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Militia | a good test is which mob? i forget, last time i did ud was old ud |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Siveril | I apparently have 19 sprites |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Siveril | yeah, spose so |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Arcaxios | do you all have sprite characters that you've used this item on? |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Malaclypse | eh, dont have to use all those in your first attempt if you just want to try it out as a scouting exercize |
| 2025-03-19 09:18 | Siveril | well, if you have an endless font of free invinc potions, by all means try it early,but usually the invinc/steel quaffs are the limiting factor on number of attempts |
| 2025-03-19 09:17 | Militia | but it will be harder |
| 2025-03-19 09:17 | Malaclypse | after reboot |
| 2025-03-19 09:17 | Militia | i mean you can try earlier |
| 2025-03-19 09:17 | Malaclypse | yeah, his breath his exempt from the general breath damage boost |
| 2025-03-19 09:17 | Arcaxios | and you can't trasfer this item to someone else. May so tempting... but also a little discouraging to have to wait until hero 800 to try to morph again. LOL |
| 2025-03-19 09:17 | Malaclypse | er harm* |