| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2026-05-05 17:52 | Alyce | in the 70s for free you could turn on a radio in NYC and hear an amazing range of music |
| 2026-05-05 17:51 | Zaffer | You got a pretty good variety of music, and mostly pretty good. Or at least not really bad. |
| 2026-05-05 17:51 | Malaclypse | depending on where you lived |
| 2026-05-05 17:51 | Zaffer | You had studios that specialized in punk and such. And with enough studios, it actually worked out alright. |
| 2026-05-05 17:51 | Alyce | and the hopes from musicians for the future were much higher in the 90s than they are now |
| 2026-05-05 17:51 | Alyce | it was easier to find before spotify |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Malaclypse | yeah |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Zaffer | *nod Mala* The gatekeeping meant that you had to be "good" (marketable) enough to warrant pressing some CDs. |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Malaclypse | and let through its own brand of gumf |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Alyce | that's the catch, the owners still control the alogrithms etc so to really find the interesting or different you have to be an intrepid explorer |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Malaclypse | which for better or worse filtered a lot of the gumf |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Zaffer | Or maybe it's the same ratio that it always was... just there's *so* much more of it that you're sifting through way more garbage to find it. |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Malaclypse | in the old days there was a lot more gatekeeping |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Alyce | also taking control is worth a lot |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Malaclypse | yeah |
| 2026-05-05 17:50 | Zaffer | Noise > Signal in this case. |
| 2026-05-05 17:49 | Zaffer | *nod nod* |
| 2026-05-05 17:49 | Alyce | more music by a far far more diverse group has to be better |
| 2026-05-05 17:49 | Malaclypse | a lot more good and bad |
| 2026-05-05 17:49 | Malaclypse | it has created a lot more |
| 2026-05-05 17:49 | Alyce | i think it has |
| 2026-05-05 17:48 | Zaffer | The ability to produce music inexpensively outside of a professional studio has not necessarily made for better music. |
| 2026-05-05 17:48 | Alyce | is pirate's bay still around |
| 2026-05-05 17:47 | Alyce | not at all the way we thought it would be back in the day, when 'the future was coming' lol |
| 2026-05-05 17:47 | Alyce | not easy for alternative or experimental groups to get their name out, to make money |
| 2026-05-05 17:46 | Alyce | but it's not easy to find for ppl on spotify |
| 2026-05-05 17:46 | Alyce | there is mala |
| 2026-05-05 17:46 | Alyce | and loss of democracy, and increase in mental illness... aye carumba |
| 2026-05-05 17:46 | Malaclypse | you do have to look for it though |
| 2026-05-05 17:46 | Malaclypse | there is an absolute boat load of amazing obscure music online |
| 2026-05-05 17:45 | Alyce | and billionaires |
| 2026-05-05 17:45 | Ammomee | greedy corporations and spammers and scammers |
| 2026-05-05 17:44 | Alyce | it's sad how late-80s/early-90s internet optimism of an improvement in liberty and things like obscure music and all the improvements the tech would bring has actually led to the opposite |
| 2026-05-05 17:42 | Ammomee | I'd go to a big city like Dallas or Atlanta, and I'd be like. man.. these stations are so much cooler than ours. |
| 2026-05-05 17:42 | Alyce | and now probably dont really broadcast, but only exist on streaming |
| 2026-05-05 17:41 | Zaffer | The rock stations I would listen to over satellite dish because I lived in the middle of nowhere. |
| 2026-05-05 17:41 | Ammomee | my hometown was a rock station, and 40 years later, they still play the same music, but it's not as cool as it used to be |
| 2026-05-05 17:41 | Zaffer | Power97 in Winnipeg. |
| 2026-05-05 17:40 | Zaffer | 102.1 The Edge! |
| 2026-05-05 17:40 | Alyce | that's how the shoes started |
| 2026-05-05 17:40 | Ammomee | didn't they all have names like KROCK 102! |
| 2026-05-05 17:38 | Zaffer | Oof. I did not realize that Silver Side Up was released on Sept 11, 2001. |
| 2026-05-05 17:38 | Quiss | butt rock was the term for radio stations in the early 00s that played nothing "but rock" |
| 2026-05-05 17:38 | Zaffer | And then Silver Side Up had Never Again. Animals on whatever album that came out on. |
| 2026-05-05 17:38 | Alyce | i haven't seen a guitarist better than Michael Hedges |
| 2026-05-05 17:37 | Zaffer | Leader of Men, Old Enough and Breathe were all pretty good songs on their first album. |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Zaffer | And put on a helluva live show. |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Alyce | like Jon Spencer Blues Explosion |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Zaffer | Nickelback had some *great* jams. |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Vexor | eh? |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Imptastic | dont trash nickelback or all the canadians will come to their defense :P |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Quiss | butt rock, like Nickelback? |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Kanwal | #forever13 |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Alyce | nothing after 2000 is classic rock |
| 2026-05-05 17:36 | Gagator | really? i'll be 41 this year, i pictured you some like 60 year old retired computer programmer... |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Vexor | and moir is only 13 |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Zaffer | This classic rock is *way* better than the Beatles. |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Vexor | and to us, zaff is ancient |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Zaffer | Uh, I'm 42? Yes, that sounds right. |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Gagator | age is perspective, to my kids i'm ancient |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Zaffer | *nod* |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Imptastic | you mean classic rock zaf? |
| 2026-05-05 17:35 | Vexor | he's ancient |
| 2026-05-05 17:34 | Gagator | i thought you were much older, you sound my age haha |
| 2026-05-05 17:34 | Zaffer | Basically all of that music is associated with starting to play here to me. |
| 2026-05-05 17:34 | Zaffer | 3 Doors Down came on the radio in some store that I was in today, and now I've been going down that very early 2000s rock/alternative/pop music |
| 2026-05-05 17:23 | Kesri | they're better at it for sure |
| 2026-05-05 17:23 | Kanwal | Though credit where it's due, FIFA have corruption down to an art form |
| 2026-05-05 17:23 | Kesri | truth |
| 2026-05-05 17:23 | Kanwal | FIFA and Trumps govt were made for each other |
| 2026-05-05 17:22 | Kesri | some are now up to 2 or 3 million on resale sites |
| 2026-05-05 17:22 | Kesri | that is craziness |
| 2026-05-05 17:22 | Kesri | i heard world cup tickets for mexico city's first game started at 11k each (USD) when they first went on sale |
| 2026-05-05 17:12 | Sumone | gonna have to sell some hooves to the glue factory |
| 2026-05-05 17:11 | Nefas | ouch |
| 2026-05-05 17:11 | Sumone | mega million tickets are 5 dollars a pop now |
| 2026-05-05 16:48 | Imptastic | commander+airqp @2e fol imp |
| 2026-05-05 16:44 | Imptastic | commanderqp @2e fol imp |
| 2026-05-05 15:27 | Imptastic | plasmaweaver @2e fol imp |
| 2026-05-05 15:22 | Imptastic | plasmaweaver @2e fol imp |
| 2026-05-05 14:59 | Zaenda | mostly |
| 2026-05-05 14:59 | Greythorn | Heroes. Are you being heroic, the very model of courtesy and courage? |
| 2026-05-05 14:37 | Istanbul | ty |
| 2026-05-05 14:37 | Zaenda | thanks |
| 2026-05-05 14:36 | Greythorn | Guten Abend, strangers. |
| 2026-05-05 13:51 | Kurai | anymore for lord xp? |
| 2026-05-05 12:54 | Oldman | and i do know that hero diamonds are pretty rare |
| 2026-05-05 12:54 | Oldman | now i have lord pgems : 2 sapp 2 ameth 1 diamond 1 ruby - and i need 2 diamonds (hero) if anyone wnats to swap around a few |
| 2026-05-05 12:50 | Oldman | thanx |
| 2026-05-05 12:50 | Ondskan | keep it |
| 2026-05-05 12:50 | Oldman | who do i give the sapp to dingping? |
| 2026-05-05 12:49 | Neighborhood | hero anybody got an ign to test whether firering procs inner? |
| 2026-05-05 12:48 | Zaenda | a cadet |
| 2026-05-05 12:48 | Eglarion | anything in an opal? |
| 2026-05-05 12:47 | Oldman | trading my hero sapphire (mine) for hero emerald (yours) |
| 2026-05-05 12:18 | Isnotrafel | anyone else for essences? |
| 2026-05-05 12:14 | Isnotrafel | essences 2e |
| 2026-05-05 11:52 | Istanbul | hi |
| 2026-05-05 11:51 | Malaclypse | hi |
| 2026-05-05 11:35 | Quarterly | squirrelweaver @2e fol quart |