| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2022-07-05 23:03 | Hayami | and the first rerolls lost a ton of players |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Vamp | one for every class! |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Hayami | I remember when titan was months away |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Kelemvor | *lost |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Vamp | so i have an opportunities to gt at least 12-13 new drg 999 lords? |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Kelemvor | lots quit |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Kelemvor | we lots a lot of people bc of those rerolls |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Hayami | what zaffer said |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Vixelle | no reroll please... i had a 20k+ hp hero thief, lost almost 1/2 the hp after the hero reroll. |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Hayami | nod |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Seyonne | Titan obviously hit a snag (I'm sure some of you remember when we were "months away") |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Zaffer | I don't think there will be a consensus on rerolling chars, or even a simple majority. Even when pfile versions got updated and people got rerolls at sub-999, it was not appreciated. |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Seyonne | Imms want to create new content for players. The massive imbalance at lord has caused a stagnation in creativity. |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Alif | because not everyone's happy, and ppl want new stuff |
| 2022-07-05 23:02 | Menace | i guess |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Menace | cause we wont get new stuff |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Vamp | agree |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Wolthu | everytime, Seyonne comes on and ask for our voices, all we talk about is to LEAVE IT ALONE. Why can't imms leave it alone and make us happy? |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Vamp | and ppl put in lots of effort to run them |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Hayami | nobody will run |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Shadowin | so rolling that 999 xp to other lords to 999 .... kinda... retires a lot of alts |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Vixelle | nobody will run a level 1 spr caster... just wait for transfer of xp |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Hayami | exactly shadowin |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Seyonne | My purpose is not to try to drive anyone away. I mentioned earlier - any 999 reroll with whatever reimbursement avenues there are, will only be done with great consensus of the players |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Vamp | transmog areas are good way to create possible better gears |
| 2022-07-05 23:01 | Shadowin | but once its 999, there'd be no reason to run it |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Hayami | just, no. |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Hayami | no |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Hayami | which honestly.. |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Hayami | and then if enough, get a new 999 spr caster |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Vixelle | so the proposal is to transfer xp from a 999 alt to a level 1 spr caster? |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Hayami | ^kelem |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Vamp | we need new gears new input, not removing what is in existance |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Kelemvor | if the fix to balance drives enough people away, there wont be enough around to run these hypothetical new areas |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Madrivax | Is rerolling 999s something that is going to happen regardless? That seems like a good first step to let any mutants that wouldn't quit the game over it think about ideas to suggest. |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Wolthu | how is it a balance issue, tomorrow I might run Delani all day, not running Wolthu then get maimed in a run cuz you made changes on balancing |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Menace | those that are "mutants" alrdy have mostly t0/manifest gear they can have |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Hayami | but taking away the gains will completely decimate a lot of playercount at lord |
| 2022-07-05 23:00 | Mythril | shard realm, and transmog have produced tons of runs |
| 2022-07-05 22:59 | Seyonne | I think so too, which is why we've talked about plenty of other topics |
| 2022-07-05 22:59 | Hayami | 100% agree there |
| 2022-07-05 22:59 | Hayami | ^^^^ |
| 2022-07-05 22:59 | Mythril | i dont think the balance is causing stagnation, i think the lack of attainable goals besides gains, is an issue |
| 2022-07-05 22:59 | Seyonne | There is a desire to fix the balance issue and bring more encouragement for the creation of new content. |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Seyonne | This conversation is an attempt to let people know that we think there is a balance issue. The balance issue causes a stagnation in new content because it's hard to build and create knowing there is a massive imbalance across multiple fronts |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Wolthu | c 'transfer xp' wolthu |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Hayami | but gross |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Hayami | i mean, i could sink all my exp into gautreau |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Shadowin | the problem with that is im at probably 10k levels, with most my other lords already being 999... i dont have anywhere to put the extra xp |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Diy | mday plvling shouldnt be counted |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Hayami | wayyyy past your bedtime |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Wolthu | elephant nuts to be precise |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Hayami | it is 11pm |
| 2022-07-05 22:58 | Mythril | seems i cant do math now either |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Mythril | like i said earlier, that has to be given back evenly, just cause wolthu has 150k hp and 7k lvls, doesnt mean my 7k lvls on 10 alts means less than his |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Hayami | 150k hp is the mud equivalent of truck nuts anyway |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Diy | the ROI of youth |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Hayami | even with knowing that they wont get anything else past that |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Diy | lol |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Hayami | what if the player wants to keep their stats as their give back on investment |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Hayami | rofl |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Seyonne | The goal is not to ostracize, which is why part of my solution is essentially "give all investment back" |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Vamp | is shadowin gonna do a sharescreen? |
| 2022-07-05 22:57 | Mythril | tf dont have spellcheck.... |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Chalu | i think if we can all agree on that mythril, then we will have made a giant stride in making progress |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Diy | we are oversize |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Vamp | i wonder what's on his other window |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Hayami | calp im proud of you for attempting to spell ostracize |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Mythril | things need to happen to keep the current players engaged, not ostrasize them and force them out. |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Hayami | also... sad but true |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Seyonne | I believe a goal is to make "management of a run" more important than "how big your character is". In that we would agree |
| 2022-07-05 22:56 | Kelemvor | lets be honest, muds were'nt all that popular in their heyday |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Menace | not that old yet :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Vamp | lol |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Vamp | attract the retireds |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Vamp | well, plenty of 50yrs old out there |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Zaffer | that's because they saw the other window, Shadowin. |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Hayami | same Shadowin |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Kelemvor | breed |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Wolthu | Seyonne, makes no difference, if we all out of blue decides to run below 999 alts together and i promise you, we will success, its not the matter of mutants or not, its the matter of management of a run |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Shadowin | yeah. the past 15 years i've had to explain what im doing on my laptop, and get looks of disgust and confusion |
| 2022-07-05 22:55 | Chalu | has anyone tried researching other "more popular" muds? i have only played avatar for the most part for the past 25 years, but has anyone tried to see what the muds with higher counts are doing that we arent? but with technology today, the playercounts of old are unrealistic unless i am missing something. |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Kelemvor | mudding is a nostalgic thing for us older people, its not gonna gain popularity, we're a dying brteed |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Hayami | i agree with mythril, sadly |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Mythril | getting new players is like asking people to go back and ride a horse to work instead of driving a car. this is 50 year old tech were playing on |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Kelemvor | so don't expect it any time soon |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Vixelle | boost the mud count? this proposed change already chased some existing ones away |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Seyonne | I've asked the team to find out which is easier: Repurposing legend or releasing titan. |
| 2022-07-05 22:54 | Kelemvor | mala said last year he's on his 3rd or 4th attempt to fix it, but having issues |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Seyonne | Battle code remains the reason Titan is on hold, there's not much more information I have than that at the moment |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | mutants re ---- |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Seyonne | There have been attempts to boost mud count, and there are ongoing efforts to explore boosting mud counts. |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | jk |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | cheese |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Wolthu | which is, Hayami |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | lets stay on topic yall |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Vamp | boost the mud count before making changes? |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Menace | multiplay 1 per tier ? |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Kali | People seem to have a hard enough time paying attention to one run, I'm not sure I want them trying to manage 3 at once :) |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Kelemvor | thats giving him issues |