| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2024-09-16 13:48 | Ryoki | Frankly, I really enjoy that you can get more exp by making a more diverse group now vs just a tank and 3 archers like the 'good old days' |
| 2024-09-16 13:48 | Lupee | a little too heavy handed. I doubt we're all C/C++ coders, so if our mud client breaks and we cna't fix it - then we shouldn't use it? that seems extreme. in the worst case - we should still be able to play without triggers and without a super client. |
| 2024-09-16 13:48 | Siveril | people disseminate these script packages then I have to lead groups running 3 different script packages most of the users have no understanding of, while they're paying almost zero attention. It's great. |
| 2024-09-16 13:47 | Quickblade | if you cant fix it when it breaks you shouldnt use it |
| 2024-09-16 13:47 | Lupee | like, I don't need to know how to build an off road truck in order to drive one, but I better have full understanding of the capabilities of it, and the knowledge and experience not to make it do things that I'm unsure about. |
| 2024-09-16 13:46 | Siveril | outside of multiday I use a lot less automation than most so I can have fine control over what I am actually doing |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Maxine | but, I don't know how to script.. guess I can just do it all manually like a telnet scrub |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Quickblade | I have terrible triggers and dont really work, but at least I wrote them all myself |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Lupee | I'm fine if you run the scripts you didn't write - as long as you know how it works and disable the things that you don't understand. |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Quickblade | word. |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Siveril | I just have zero respect for people who run scripts they didn't write |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Quickblade | rip can solo ok because heal-bots exist |
| 2024-09-16 13:45 | Lupee | I'm still annoyed about the "I didn't make a mistake in the zone.. it was my triggers that I didn't write - it's their fault. it's the fault of the script creator! not me!" |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Quickblade | for non-rip melee not so much |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Hippo | I heroed this, I started tanking at hero 1, I'm not having any issues even if I'm not busting out 15k hero runs |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Quickblade | for casters sure |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Ryoki | You just have to be creative/learn different areas. |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Ryoki | There's effective ways to get exp solo, in a duo/trio/+ |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Lupee | heh |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Siveril | you could do what lasher did and just take over all the mud ranking sites so yours is always #1 :P |
| 2024-09-16 13:44 | Quickblade | lead yourself and more selective aka sit in sanc and endlessly spam hero |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Lupee | there are a few new players. I'm not sure I agree with the "here's your new player welcome kit and mudlet script package, now just log in and collect loots and xp. don't worry if the stuff on the screen doesn't make sense..." |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Siveril | somebody mentioned that we could get a steam ad for a nominal one time fee on a forum once, not sure if that'd help |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Hippo | old text heads are a commodity and there are only so many to go around |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Ryoki | easiest way to stop people 'forcing you to carry them' is to lead yourself and be more selective |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Hippo | nod |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Siveril | gonna be kind of hard to market a 30 year old text game to new players I guess |
| 2024-09-16 13:43 | Quickblade | I borught my roommate in! |
| 2024-09-16 13:42 | Hippo | barely get anyone new |
| 2024-09-16 13:42 | Hippo | and yet the only people that get brought in are "friends and family" who just end up being afk shell bots |
| 2024-09-16 13:42 | Quickblade | or let everybody die and cry about getting a CR |
| 2024-09-16 13:42 | Siveril | some of the friction at lord is also because everyone wants a big sor who can solo without realising it takes years to level them to that point, unless you're mizuno |
| 2024-09-16 13:42 | Quickblade | previously you could group to tackle big chellenges, but now people group to force you to carry them |
| 2024-09-16 13:42 | Lupee | number of players have gone downhill dramatically |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Quickblade | The quality of groups has gone downhill dramatically |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Ryoki | petition to implement Game Genies on AVATAR |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Maxine | nod, can I just create an alt at level 125 (1) pls |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Quickblade | Youre being hyperbolic but yes |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Manic | can i also have perma hog, pls? |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Lupee | the only reason bzk shouldn't quaff / pill for frenzy is due to lag prevents rescue. but in a pinch, yeah. |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Hippo | and a lord |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Hippo | :'( |
| 2024-09-16 13:41 | Ryoki | Let's just make sure that all classes do maximum damage output, have maximum survivability, and require no intervention/planning/communication to be as strong as possible at all times, mkay? |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Siveril | it's so easy that even boar has superhero dragons these days |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Quickblade | not so much easier as less inconvenient |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Hippo | "make the game easier" it's already the absolute easiest this game has ever been |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Victory | even that can be prepared for. on my bzk's i get sanc insig and farm frenzy pills |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Ryoki | then what would be the downside? |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Hippo | just farm crab meat and wafers |
| 2024-09-16 13:40 | Quickblade | honestly bzk should be allowed to scar for sanc/frenz at hero too |
| 2024-09-16 13:39 | Siveril | been a long time since I had to use locate object to see which areas were populated heh |
| 2024-09-16 13:39 | Ryoki | Same was true here a long time ago. |
| 2024-09-16 13:39 | Manic | casting frenzy on myself lags me soooo much |
| 2024-09-16 13:39 | Siveril | when we had more aardwolflike counts, like several hundred players online not on a multiday, there was also a lot more choice of what kind of group you'd like..and a lot more competition for mobs |
| 2024-09-16 13:39 | Lupee | bzk is pretty much the only one that should be allowed to ask for sanc/frenzy, b/c they're rescuing and shouldn't be in lag. |
| 2024-09-16 13:38 | Lupee | also, if you can't cast sanc, then have wafers, if you don't have moves, then wear 7 leagues and endurance, have roots, if you have less than 1k hps, then wear hp gear - spending all the time CRing folks taht didn't come prepared - that's frustrating. If they don't care - then why should I? |
| 2024-09-16 13:37 | Maxine | I just find it breeds afk'ers and they get to lord and do the same thing.. as Siveril mentioned hard to balance a group at lord that way |
| 2024-09-16 13:37 | Ryoki | QB - some leaders do, some do not. |
| 2024-09-16 13:37 | Siveril | I'm just not a fan of followig other people for grouping generally I guess |
| 2024-09-16 13:37 | Quickblade | they get offended if you try to being your crap lowhero instead of your superhero tank |
| 2024-09-16 13:37 | Maxine | yeah, true |
| 2024-09-16 13:36 | Summasault | no one is offended if you don't join a public EHA. |
| 2024-09-16 13:36 | Lupee | I'm a big fan of the sniper mobs at the start of sems, weeding out the smols... |
| 2024-09-16 13:36 | Xykoi | the great thing is, you can run with a big eha group, or not run run with a big eha group, its your choice! :D |
| 2024-09-16 13:36 | Summasault | and I think that's ok too. If you don't want to go on a run like that, don't. |
| 2024-09-16 13:36 | Archimedes | bring back group limits |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Summasault | some people don't target maximum xp/hour |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Quickblade | where everybody grabs their her 14 gia mag and 2 partial typhus staves and spunjes |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Siveril | I can tank faster with a 3 person group for xp per hour than huge eha groups who spend half that hour with their thumb up their ass in sanctum |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Summasault | there's more than one way to skin a former cat |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Quickblade | nod, those are the pub ones |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Maxine | so dumb |
| 2024-09-16 13:35 | Maxine | huge eha groups are a curse imo |
| 2024-09-16 13:34 | Lupee | group limits are a curse though |
| 2024-09-16 13:34 | Quickblade | non-priv EHA should give the leader 5 free levels and 1m gold for the amount of public service youre providing |
| 2024-09-16 13:34 | An immortal | ok |
| 2024-09-16 13:34 | Maxine | bring back group limits at hero so we have more smaller and more valid EHA groups |
| 2024-09-16 13:34 | Lupee | I don't blame leaders wanting to go private eha via tells |
| 2024-09-16 13:34 | Quickblade | everybody just afks and if the triggers dont do it it doesnt get done |
| 2024-09-16 13:33 | Quickblade | lord and eha both have the same problem |
| 2024-09-16 13:33 | Siveril | for tiers requiring larger groups, anyway, mostly lord or eha |
| 2024-09-16 13:32 | Siveril | increasingly difficult for leaders to handle, coaxing people into a balanced group is a real headdesk moment as counts continue to drop off |
| 2024-09-16 13:32 | Quickblade | nod |
| 2024-09-16 13:32 | Lupee | half of leading is getting group comp - which is also why it's so frustrating, so I get that. but if you go with a crappy group comp and your xp sucks, or you splat, then that's the leader's fault for not handling that. |
| 2024-09-16 13:31 | Quickblade | groups are just where people dump the alts that they want leveld but are to trash to tank or solo |
| 2024-09-16 13:30 | Quickblade | hilarious |
| 2024-09-16 13:30 | Quickblade | but assuming that there people in the group and that they will so stuff |
| 2024-09-16 13:29 | Lupee | I've ran several rips, and you just had to adjust your play style based on group comp and your race. got a viz or pal in the group? do all the ripper stuff until 50% hps, rinse repeat. trl ripper? then just revive when you wanna go ripper skill crazy. |
| 2024-09-16 13:29 | Siveril | maybe you need an imm so you can run us some nice golem invasions with t0 hero gear |
| 2024-09-16 13:29 | Quickblade | No, Siveril. I dont even get to have insane gear anymore |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Quickblade | the health cost is just wildly overtuned |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Siveril | I can haz insane gear? |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Quickblade | ripper hits the way ALL melee classes should hit |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Lupee | it's a little more difficult on the double hit chars, but ripper it was super easy to see b/c you're always dual wielding basically. |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Siveril | a kzn war might not hit as hard as a giant but it'll land a lot more attacks per round for example |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Quickblade | Im thinking that the only reason I liked bzk was because I used to have really insane gear and that made up for the shortcomings I take issue with now |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Lupee | I noticed on my ripper if my HR is below 100 |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Siveril | dex and hr both matter for accuracy |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Lupee | a hog is not a fully representative of mud mechanics |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Bruhm | that's at 34 str, 22 dex |