| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Visaren | cleric is a really fun, versatile class at all tiers |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Theme | gotta have discordia up! |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Throdo | great for tandem pantheons |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Sheaf | i accidentally have 4 lord cle rn tho |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Throdo | i'm building a cle for at least 5 pantheon spells for lord mday lol. already got one for gc and artificer, now i'm working on unholy rampage, grim harvest, and the gorn dmg reduction one |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Agmalthra | sprite is just really good for the tnl |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Sheaf | locality does lovely at lord |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Visaren | i am interesting in bloating a spr cleric. would be great. but bloated sprite pal is better imo |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Medhya | few run cleric at lord outside of Mare/Pyki |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Agmalthra | nod, mostly for mday or a group tailored specifically to take advantage of that |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Argument | thank you |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Medhya | but for pub groups nobody runs cleric for artificer, so it's moot for me |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Visaren | yah thats good argument |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Arcsec | i agree |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Agmalthra | nod. arti is nice :p |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Medhya | that's a good argument for ign tanks for sure |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Elevation | very fun |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Agmalthra | max for golem was around 16000 iirc |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Visaren | sexy |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Medhya | lol, nice |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Agmalthra | i wrote it down somewhere but iirc i was able to heal an ignatur for 21000 hp with a single aug 5 comf with artificer active and innervate up |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | 32 or 33 for me too |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Visaren | yah i dont use gmpc |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Elevation | I capped out at 32 on my cleric :( |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | can't use gmcp if you run a group that big |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Visaren | i mostly roll with a group of 43 so i dont need to heal much :P |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | but yeah, figured the lag would be bad |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | well yeah that is why I'd think to just dedicate a mag/wzd to just heal ii |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Elevation | and their lag is terrible |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Elevation | healing with them means you lose dps |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | oh yeah? |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | seemed like a fun idea to me |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Elevation | super annoying :P |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Elevation | Yes |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | anyone try just using a mag/wzd to heal ii the constructs? |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Agmalthra | artificer is huge for constructs |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | that is weird |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Elevation | it's whacky |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Elevation | artificer means my golem gets more from a priest comfort than my troll war does |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Agmalthra | ignatur is even better when innervate is up but golem works well too |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Elevation | I have a golem bodyguard for that. |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Medhya | grin ag |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Erdrick | i have dozens of everything but pdia...so i farm when i can |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Visaren | i burned thru a lot trying to enchant jeans |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Agmalthra | and if you're going to have an arti dwf cle, might as well make an ignatur tank to take advantage of those heals! :) |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Medhya | I have so many spare pgems I don't even need it atm anyway |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Agmalthra | somewhat recent change |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | correct ag |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Visaren | oh cool |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Agmalthra | nod, artificer allows all types of gems in any plane iirc |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Visaren | whoah really? |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Medhya | interesting |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | i've gotten pdia in outland with artificer |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Visaren | can get pdia in chaos too |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | no, you do not |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Medhya | even with artificer, you need to run in noct to get pdia |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | there is |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Hypothesis | artificer stacks pretty well, so a couple non-durr work too |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Agmalthra | i believe there is a message when you get a gem from artificer's blessing |
| 2026-09-11 13:08 | Erdrick | get 15-20 lord alts, then either have a dwf cle cast artificer aura or run in noct and farm alleg/pdias |
| 2026-09-11 13:08 | Elevation | I noticed a relatively large improvement using durr artificer vs not having it up |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Agrfar | i have a dwf cle at lord, i just spend my mday on hero projects, guess i can do lord for a bit |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Medhya | like, it helped, but not enough to really say you need it |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Visaren | dwf cleric so hot! |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Medhya | I didn't find artificer helped all that much |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Elevation | and then spend the day in noctopia |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Elevation | just gotta get that dwf cle to lord |
| 2026-09-11 13:06 | Visaren | i do most my mudding at work! |
| 2026-09-11 13:06 | Agrfar | yeah i'm not quite at that level yet, maybe when i retire in 20 years and have more time |
| 2026-09-11 13:05 | Visaren | yah pdias are only worth a coupke mil now |
| 2026-09-11 13:05 | Elevation | you can get 20 pdiamonds on mday :P |
| 2026-09-11 13:04 | Elevation | I'd say the circlet is more of a baller move |
| 2026-09-11 13:04 | Visaren | hehe i did that. but not risking it on rhe circlet |
| 2026-09-11 13:04 | Delaznel | Obviously. That was before I unmade a circlet. |
| 2026-09-11 13:04 | Agrfar | not a real fyr until you unmake runic bracelet x2 |
| 2026-09-11 13:03 | Visaren | im gonna pay the 50qp to unmake a circlet |
| 2026-09-11 13:03 | Delaznel | Did you not unmake a circlet for a fury? |
| 2026-09-11 13:03 | Medhya | yolo |
| 2026-09-11 13:03 | Visaren | ooof unmaking a once sundered |
| 2026-09-11 13:01 | Delaznel | 8.8k hp. Very survivable :) |
| 2026-09-11 13:01 | Delaznel | -635 AC, -110 svs, 79/92! |
| 2026-09-11 13:01 | Boondoggle | meh, this is mday only now most likely lol |
| 2026-09-11 13:00 | Agmalthra | hp > ac, helps you survive spell damage too. but yeah, you're a gnome so just join a couple runs and you've got another 100+ hp :p |
| 2026-09-11 13:00 | Delaznel | (on top of the +hp) :) |
| 2026-09-11 13:00 | Delaznel | hr/dr, AC, base doesn't matter for fury... and +mana is +hp buffer :) |
| 2026-09-11 13:00 | Boondoggle | dont have a lord fury yet, but i'll keep that in mind |
| 2026-09-11 13:00 | Helfyre | oh yeah, fyr too |
| 2026-09-11 13:00 | Zaffer | once-sundered is great for fury too |
| 2026-09-11 12:59 | Helfyre | I like sundered for ripper/psi since it's the same hr/dr but adds mana and ac |
| 2026-09-11 12:58 | Helfyre | end of the day, neither item is going to save a little gno wzd, so do whatcha like |
| 2026-09-11 12:58 | Boondoggle | more ac equates to saving hps...it's all preference i suppose, and i just dont prefer to do UD on anything other than archers or perma heroes myself, but you do you |
| 2026-09-11 12:58 | Helfyre | grin |
| 2026-09-11 12:57 | Visaren | has a lot more hp than jeans |
| 2026-09-11 12:57 | Boondoggle | not as much ac as jean's |
| 2026-09-11 12:57 | Someone | sundered ring has hp as well as ac |
| 2026-09-11 12:56 | Boondoggle | i like ac and hp more...especially on lord runs |
| 2026-09-11 12:56 | Someone | first time meeting a wzd that doesnt like mana |
| 2026-09-11 12:55 | Boondoggle | i think i have 3 of those....and zero of them are equipped lol |
| 2026-09-11 12:55 | Visaren | *gasp* once sundered ring is op |
| 2026-09-11 12:54 | Boondoggle | i did not....considering it's pretty much worthless at lord for a wzd |