| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2026-09-11 13:25 | Agmalthra | nice one :p grats |
| 2026-09-11 13:24 | Agmalthra | it's the only race that has a worship restriction (aside from imps), right? |
| 2026-09-11 13:24 | Visaren | oh wow i didnt know that |
| 2026-09-11 13:24 | Theme | nod, it's good lore continuity |
| 2026-09-11 13:23 | Medhya | cool flavour, ngl |
| 2026-09-11 13:23 | Agmalthra | yeah, i was surprised when i first found out about that |
| 2026-09-11 13:23 | Theme | "Qxl says get bent" |
| 2026-09-11 13:23 | Theme | yep, tried on my drc sor |
| 2026-09-11 13:23 | Medhya | they can't? How did I not notice that.. oh right only had one drc and it was a mnd who can't worship anyway |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Theme | since they can't even worship qxl |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Theme | probably something else draconian, fdk/liz/tua, drc are probably terrible |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Medhya | drc maybe? At a guess, anything draconic.. but just a guess |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Throdo | prolly dwf...dwf get pantheon bonus across the board iirc |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Ozgikh | what's best race for hallowed nimbus, besides dragon? |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Theme | tua sor can get 8 hp as qxl |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Throdo | bah, stats dont matter unless you permahero...after a few k lord levels, it all evens out |
| 2026-09-11 13:22 | Medhya | 0hp gains are sad |
| 2026-09-11 13:21 | Visaren | i was bhyss with spr cle but can get 0 hp gains at hero. i changed to qxl |
| 2026-09-11 13:21 | Theme | only if you hate stats |
| 2026-09-11 13:21 | Agmalthra | yeah, qxl is awful to play |
| 2026-09-11 13:21 | Medhya | and spr wzd |
| 2026-09-11 13:21 | Throdo | omg, qxl should be outlawed for all except spr sor |
| 2026-09-11 13:20 | Sheaf | minmax when yer ded |
| 2026-09-11 13:20 | Theme | imo, qxl at hero for the gainz |
| 2026-09-11 13:20 | Sheaf | live big, worship early |
| 2026-09-11 13:20 | Throdo | trying to decide if i should just worship bhyss all the way through hero with the one i'm gonna do grim harvest with, or switch at lord |
| 2026-09-11 13:19 | Throdo | never played with it much, so that's cool |
| 2026-09-11 13:19 | Theme | does add |
| 2026-09-11 13:18 | Throdo | *can* add dmg/svs, or *does* add?? bid difference :) |
| 2026-09-11 13:18 | Theme | discordia does add damage and saves, which is nice |
| 2026-09-11 13:18 | Throdo | i dunno how useful it is outside of shifting...unless you got a pal with 50k mana like visa :D |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Theme | <3 |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Theme | discordia and a no-fail cleric means my golem never has to planeshift on his own |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Visaren | yah theme |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Agmalthra | nod, discordia is fun |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Throdo | yea i guess i can make one for discordia too...add it to the list :p |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Agmalthra | i made a drider cleric for cytotoxism fun but i'm not sure it was worth it |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Theme | it's a lot more fun with the changes that have been made |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Visaren | cleric is a really fun, versatile class at all tiers |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Theme | gotta have discordia up! |
| 2026-09-11 13:17 | Throdo | great for tandem pantheons |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Sheaf | i accidentally have 4 lord cle rn tho |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Throdo | i'm building a cle for at least 5 pantheon spells for lord mday lol. already got one for gc and artificer, now i'm working on unholy rampage, grim harvest, and the gorn dmg reduction one |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Agmalthra | sprite is just really good for the tnl |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Sheaf | locality does lovely at lord |
| 2026-09-11 13:16 | Visaren | i am interesting in bloating a spr cleric. would be great. but bloated sprite pal is better imo |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Medhya | few run cleric at lord outside of Mare/Pyki |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Agmalthra | nod, mostly for mday or a group tailored specifically to take advantage of that |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Argument | thank you |
| 2026-09-11 13:15 | Medhya | but for pub groups nobody runs cleric for artificer, so it's moot for me |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Visaren | yah thats good argument |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Arcsec | i agree |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Agmalthra | nod. arti is nice :p |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Medhya | that's a good argument for ign tanks for sure |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Elevation | very fun |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Agmalthra | max for golem was around 16000 iirc |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Visaren | sexy |
| 2026-09-11 13:14 | Medhya | lol, nice |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Agmalthra | i wrote it down somewhere but iirc i was able to heal an ignatur for 21000 hp with a single aug 5 comf with artificer active and innervate up |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | 32 or 33 for me too |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Visaren | yah i dont use gmpc |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Elevation | I capped out at 32 on my cleric :( |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | can't use gmcp if you run a group that big |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Visaren | i mostly roll with a group of 43 so i dont need to heal much :P |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | but yeah, figured the lag would be bad |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Medhya | well yeah that is why I'd think to just dedicate a mag/wzd to just heal ii |
| 2026-09-11 13:13 | Elevation | and their lag is terrible |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Elevation | healing with them means you lose dps |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | oh yeah? |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | seemed like a fun idea to me |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Elevation | super annoying :P |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Elevation | Yes |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | anyone try just using a mag/wzd to heal ii the constructs? |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Agmalthra | artificer is huge for constructs |
| 2026-09-11 13:12 | Medhya | that is weird |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Elevation | it's whacky |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Elevation | artificer means my golem gets more from a priest comfort than my troll war does |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Agmalthra | ignatur is even better when innervate is up but golem works well too |
| 2026-09-11 13:11 | Elevation | I have a golem bodyguard for that. |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Medhya | grin ag |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Erdrick | i have dozens of everything but pdia...so i farm when i can |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Visaren | i burned thru a lot trying to enchant jeans |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Agmalthra | and if you're going to have an arti dwf cle, might as well make an ignatur tank to take advantage of those heals! :) |
| 2026-09-11 13:10 | Medhya | I have so many spare pgems I don't even need it atm anyway |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Agmalthra | somewhat recent change |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | correct ag |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Visaren | oh cool |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Agmalthra | nod, artificer allows all types of gems in any plane iirc |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Visaren | whoah really? |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Medhya | interesting |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | i've gotten pdia in outland with artificer |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Visaren | can get pdia in chaos too |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | no, you do not |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Medhya | even with artificer, you need to run in noct to get pdia |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Erdrick | there is |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Hypothesis | artificer stacks pretty well, so a couple non-durr work too |
| 2026-09-11 13:09 | Agmalthra | i believe there is a message when you get a gem from artificer's blessing |
| 2026-09-11 13:08 | Erdrick | get 15-20 lord alts, then either have a dwf cle cast artificer aura or run in noct and farm alleg/pdias |
| 2026-09-11 13:08 | Elevation | I noticed a relatively large improvement using durr artificer vs not having it up |
| 2026-09-11 13:07 | Agrfar | i have a dwf cle at lord, i just spend my mday on hero projects, guess i can do lord for a bit |