| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Seyonne | I do want to say that we are actively pursuing the same types of balance in transmog/shard to be default, but there is still research to go into the code behind that to see how we could roll that out |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Vamp | personally speaking, i don't even run much lords ever since that previous changes last year |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Jonnan | theres def varying stages of mutants now :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Wolthu | stuck at 134k |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Wolthu | same feeling, vamp! |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Jonnan | *50k |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Jonnan | and im just hoping byki one day hits 509k. |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Jonnan | blink |
| 2022-07-05 22:42 | Vamp | i'ave been stuck at 130k mana forever now.. 150k seems unattainable |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Vamp | esp that one with all those levels of glimmers skins |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Madrivax | mc |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Vamp | like how these transmog areas are tough to run without a proper big group |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Madrivax | Immediately ignored because of "can't never" |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Seyonne | I understand the sentiment behind hamstringing, but I also hope everyone can recognize how difficult new content can be to come up with with the crazy mutants floating around |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Jonnan | ^ |
| 2022-07-05 22:41 | Mythril | if them rewards for the 999er's are too great, you risk alienating the players who didnt bother with running much after 999 but put a comproable amount of time in as the mutants |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Kali | Also, sure, let them gain pracs so they can eulogy |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Wolthu | ha |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Chalu | seyonne, i think i speak for a lot of folks when i say that we appreciate your efforts at an honest and constructive conversation. but if the goal is to increase player counts or encourage more group play at lord, perhaps hamstringing elder/leader players will not have the desired effect, regardless of comps |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Vixelle | if max trainable stats is 150k, why is a 100k stat player called a mutant? |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Jonnan | :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Jonnan | bear stance? |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Vamp | why are the players being targeted instead of making new areas which cater to the growth of the player base? |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Wolthu | like no rescue lags for monk at 999? Jonnan? |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Jonnan | well... i think 999's should still gain pracs |
| 2022-07-05 22:40 | Seyonne | (Instead of gains) |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Wolthu | have some here, come over :p |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Jonnan | like, you could have insignias based on class and race, that you could increase say spellpower or such |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Seyonne | I'm dubbing them "alternative points" in lieu of any better name, which would accrue with all future levels of 999 |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Madrivax | iso venison jerky |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Wolthu | u get deer meat from me, clap. |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Seyonne | Absolutely, that's an idea |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Jonnan | What about converting their exp into customizable insignias that give benefits... |
| 2022-07-05 22:39 | Mythril | what about my prize for being the 11,000,000th login, while were handing out free crap |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Seyonne | That includes full QP reimbursement, exp reimbursement (to other chars), amongst other ideas floating around that could go towards future possibilities (new tier, remort++, etc) none of which are totally solidified as ideas yet |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Kali | (A) Existing mutants need to be shrunk down to a reasonable size (B) People should still get something (probably transferable) both for any levels lost that way and any future levels on 999 characters so they don't feel bad about running the character |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Martyr | maybe if we're set on keeping the lp for gains, make lp account wide instead of character specific |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Vamp | if we have 100 plays loggaed at anytime, yeah sure, we need no one to take 2 spots |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Madrivax | you mean until you morph it into a Titan, Martyr! |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Jonnan | Yeah, sadly... as a leader... mutants do make some of those heavy player count required runs possible with low counts |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Vixelle | if mutants make the game easier, why not make the mobs harder? |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Vamp | and esp when player counts are low now, it's practically difficult to get 30 low-lords to run, say gulch/crown and succeed |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Wolthu | well, i died many times, regardless how big i am, however if i am on drg monk instead, i'd be around level 700, would people still call me mutant? |
| 2022-07-05 22:38 | Martyr | yeah, I would be totally willing to lead on my 999 shf, but I have no desire to lead on my 999 prs, so now my prs just sits on the shelf for the rest of time |
| 2022-07-05 22:37 | Seyonne | I'm making an earnest effort to give as many possible avenues of reimbursement to mutants in order to amicably help us achieve a goal for future play |
| 2022-07-05 22:37 | Mythril | games to easy, is what it comes down to, and the mutants make it much easier |
| 2022-07-05 22:37 | Vamp | actually, we mutants do die often tooo.. |
| 2022-07-05 22:37 | Mythril | correct, i dont enjoy playing 999's i get nothing out of it, and im slowly approcahing an army of 999's instead of one wolthu or caree |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Seyonne | This conversation has come up plenty of times in the past, but we recognized that we couldn't pull the trigger without support from the lord community. |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Autolykus | i built a spr bld so that it would be able to lead more than my tua bld..and that turned out to be innacurate |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Vamp | we all are individuas with diff playstyle, and choices |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Vixelle | after so many years now that we recognize that it breaks the game design? |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Vamp | and i agree with mithril.. |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Jonnan | mines 35, and im maxed on most lead skills |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Kali | Complain isn't necessarily the right term, but we recognize that it completely breaks the game design |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Jonnan | on some yes |
| 2022-07-05 22:36 | Autolykus | groumax is 36? |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Mythril | sounds like you need a job |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Shadowin | nog vamp |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Vamp | i already have 20 999s, why do i need anoter 20 when grp max is 36 |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Vixelle | did the players complain about mutants? |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Jonnan | yeah im not one of those thankfully |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Chalu | i dont have any 999s, but i think that would be too penal |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Menace | there are ppl with 10000 levels of 999 |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Jonnan | oh.. |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Vamp | and talk abt this gigantic gains in another 10 years time |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Mythril | while i think it sucks for the mutants, i dont think they are entitled to anything. some of us chose to play other alts intead of one alt for years, were not complaining |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Shadowin | they'd be rerolled to 999, then given 20 other 999s |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Jonnan | like, youd reroll it? or leave as is and just convert exp to the other alt |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Jonnan | what would that entail to the 999 stats etc |
| 2022-07-05 22:35 | Vamp | we shld leave it as it is now |
| 2022-07-05 22:34 | Jonnan | uh |
| 2022-07-05 22:34 | Seyonne | Regarding capping 999s to true 999, I understand one of the loudest arguments last time was time investment. Initial proposal from me would be to allow conversion of exp/levels to other characters. Any thoughts? |
| 2022-07-05 22:34 | Jonnan | whambamthankyoumissusconstance |
| 2022-07-05 22:34 | Jonnan | lotto torques/heart/pgems |
| 2022-07-05 22:34 | Jonnan | kill 1-2 mob rooms, find shack, ent shack, ope d, d/southwestish to lotos, kill lotos, rinse repeat |
| 2022-07-05 22:33 | Jonnan | its easy |
| 2022-07-05 22:33 | Wolthu | dont know the zone :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:33 | Mythril | iso 2 hearts |
| 2022-07-05 22:33 | Jonnan | i can have dinner finally :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:32 | Jonnan | you wanna take over Wolthu? do overgrowth again |
| 2022-07-05 22:32 | Wolthu | anyway, another run? |
| 2022-07-05 22:32 | Seyonne | Sure, I'll have to emphasize that any notes about updates don't mean changes/ideas are set in stone |
| 2022-07-05 22:32 | Jonnan | that way you can continue to gather feedback in the moment post note posting |
| 2022-07-05 22:32 | Wolthu | a chance for u to meet a fat trl like me in person, jonnan! |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Warierlo | Well-formatted notes :) |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Mythril | well thoght out imm note, with reasoning behind the changes, before a crash/hastly reboot with changes |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Jonnan | but a mix of both would be great tbh |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Wolthu | ubercon! |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Warierlo | Notes, please. |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Jonnan | in person is more, in touch with the community |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Seyonne | Question to those who care: How would you like to receive updates? Imm notes or just ad-hoc conversation? |
| 2022-07-05 22:31 | Jonnan | 11.3k |
| 2022-07-05 22:30 | Jonnan | that was a good run |
| 2022-07-05 22:30 | Seyonne | I did raise that a player proposal was to do that. |
| 2022-07-05 22:29 | Wolthu | how about this conversation, revert back to normal, give us 6 months to come up with a solution, maybe 3 months. That way we both will win. |
| 2022-07-05 22:29 | Seyonne | FYI, I've shot off separate emails for all topics amongst imms and will continue to collect feedback from both sides and provide updates with latest ideas. |
| 2022-07-05 22:29 | Someone | i do believe most of those who required discussion have prematurely quit |
| 2022-07-05 22:28 | Seyonne | Not sure how long I have, but open for conversation while I'm here |
| 2022-07-05 22:28 | Seyonne | Hey all |