| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Weniss | but if the bld dies in there,yori stays there until reboot |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | Oh, yes, good point. |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | bld has to enter first, leading doesnt matter |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | yes |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | If they aren't, you just get the regular lord stuff, no? |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | caree led my yori portion, i went in first to activiate the prog |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | or sent in first |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Mizuho | yea and if they don't it screws up probably |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | They need to be leading. |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Qismat | BLD has to walk in first, if I recall. |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Mizuho | i think it's just as simple as if you activate when yori is in arena or the group drags the bld into the room |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Qismat | Basically, if you can give me a clear description of the situation in which the bug arises, I should be able to either add extra progs to cover that case, or change the quest to work a bit differently to avoid it. |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm on night shift this week, which is why I am around now. |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | i doubt youll see one do it anyttime soon :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Weniss | can review at your leisure |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm lucky to see 12 spellbots and particularly determined hero. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | so |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Weniss | it'll all be on the discord cpture for lord |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | i havent seen any bld run that quest in 7 years |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm an Asian timezone immortal :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Qismat | If you send me the details, I can stick in some more defensive progging. |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | it was in alot of lordchats though |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | rosetta doesn't write notes |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | naw you were around iirc |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Qismat | I haven't personally received any bug reports about the BLD quests... this is the first I am hearing. I guess this was raised during one of my absences? |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Weniss | newer,I've had blds longer than the dc fix was in, at lord |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Jonnan | eris did a great job coding that.. the first mobprogs |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Qismat | That was a much, much later change, like revision 5 or something. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Jonnan | debug that and buff the rewards, retroactively give any buffs to blds who already completed it, tie the quest into maximizing the skill.. whambam |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Weniss | they transfer the ambassadors if they get stuck |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Weniss | check the dc mobprogs to how to correctly modify :) |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Qismat | The coders gave builders much better tools, and to be honest, waiting for reboots is a pain. Worse than London Buses. |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Jonnan | ^ |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | plstofix |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | this is a building issue, not a c one |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Mizuho | if you activate the last quest in arena it bugs out |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | yoir also stays in his little house until eboot if a bld fails the 800 quest or the moib loads in the arena |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Qismat | So, we don't need to rely on reboots for spacing out stuff now. |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | reboots were farrrrrr and farther |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | Back when i did them, oh 7 years ago? |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | Yep |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Qismat | Was this due to needing a reboot? |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | the level 800 one took a month and a half for me to finally complete due to Yori, so that wasnt fun |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Qismat | The issues are C code side, not builder content side, sadly. Nothing I can do. |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Barf | sounds like associate developer level coding |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Qismat | I think it is some of my better work. There are some custom rooms on the MUD that they use, too, which I am kinda fond of. |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Mizuho | it also took like 3 boots to even do the 800 one |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Jonnan | they were a pain in the rear end at times, but worth it |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Qismat | I busted my (rear end) making those quests. |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Jonnan | ^ |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Lupee | help bladedancer quests - it's spelled out in the helpful - if you got a class definer w/o doing it - then that's a bug |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Weniss | spr blds don't have much use for fancy swords, they still hit like barf |
| 2022-07-11 23:06 | Aeton | lore-wise it's pretty good imho |
| 2022-07-11 23:06 | Qismat | The situation with the bld quests lacking a mechanical benefit beyond the two swords is a sad state of affairs. |
| 2022-07-11 23:06 | Barf | not doing quests is a loophole? |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Barf | what |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Qismat | It's all in your player data. |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Qismat | I'm primarily making a point that it is crazily easy to find people that exploit bugs knowingly... it is super inadvisable. |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Lupee | you asked for more nerfs though |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Barf | gonna nerf blds that didnt do quests? cool |
| 2022-07-11 23:00 | Barf | only bt5 here, no quests |
| 2022-07-11 23:00 | Jonnan | 76/88/101 x2 |
| 2022-07-11 22:59 | Jonnan | better than mine |
| 2022-07-11 22:59 | Falros | 33-67-102 and 35-68-102, great |
| 2022-07-11 22:59 | Falros | ahhh, maybe that's the issue |
| 2022-07-11 22:59 | Blur | if you didn't do ANY of the the bld quests, then it's just sublevel related - so as you gain sublevel you automatically gain the next depth |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Mizuho | also the last quest is bugged. if u use yori in arena you can't do it rest of boot or something |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Blur | depth is sublevel related AND quest related - but only if you did at least ONE of the quests |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Weniss | the quests are for the weapons |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Blasphemy | supposed to be quests |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Weniss | or because you're way too low level to hold higher trance |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Jonnan | and quests |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Aeton | isn't the depth just sublevel related? |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Jonnan | im at 95%, max depth 8, but have completed all levels |
| 2022-07-11 22:58 | Blur | so skill 95%, but max depth 3 |
| 2022-07-11 22:57 | Blur | and my btrance depth is 3 b/c I did the quests |
| 2022-07-11 22:57 | Sumnissan | what do u want kelemvor |
| 2022-07-11 22:57 | Blur | so my btrace is 95% - but I did the quests |
| 2022-07-11 22:57 | Jonnan | they load in such terribaddddd maxes |
| 2022-07-11 22:56 | Jonnan | we dont wanna talk about my maxes. |
| 2022-07-11 22:56 | Qismat | That's quite an emergent gameplay story, Aeton. :D |
| 2022-07-11 22:56 | Jonnan | :| |
| 2022-07-11 22:56 | Jonnan | I was |
| 2022-07-11 22:56 | Aeton | hmm was i brave enough to sharpen my starmetals? |
| 2022-07-11 22:56 | Jonnan | Its 2 insignias and starmetals |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Jonnan | So if he needs the variables, he can check me :P |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Aeton | yeah i think it's the bladetrance skill that the quests mess with ... but it's been uh a few years |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Jonnan | I know im 100% |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Mizuho | lia is probably 100% |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Railel | I'll have to check but bld skill and trace level I thought were diff variables |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Kelemvor | pass it |
| 2022-07-11 22:55 | Redeye | anyone free to do an illum? |
| 2022-07-11 22:54 | Jonnan | *wavehi* |
| 2022-07-11 22:54 | Aeton | for the 125(300) one I messed up once (taking the mob out of commission for the entire group until reboot), then speedwalked from anchor to Malafont, that was definitely a memorable experience |
| 2022-07-11 22:54 | Jaeger | do you need an example of a fully done bld? |
| 2022-07-11 22:53 | Aeton | i don't disbelieve you but i'm quite sure my spr bld kept re-practiccing to 95 - did they change that logic in the past couple of years? |
| 2022-07-11 22:52 | Alif | any bld that havent done the quests |
| 2022-07-11 22:52 | Kelemvor | don't blame the playerbase bc bad coding is the default |
| 2022-07-11 22:52 | Mizuho | i think i did some of the bld quests but my max is still 8 |
| 2022-07-11 22:52 | Qismat | Can just check for presence of tracking variable and skill level... |