| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2022-07-11 23:22 | Qismat | Scarcity of gear helps to keep you all playing... *inno* |
| 2022-07-11 23:22 | Qismat | I think there is a fair argument for changing the timing mechanic away from reboots. |
| 2022-07-11 23:22 | Eglarion | it made blindfolds unavailable for months when rosetta kept doing it wrong on multiday |
| 2022-07-11 23:21 | Aeton | if counts were a lil higher, the one failure per reboot hing would be messy |
| 2022-07-11 23:21 | Qismat | To be honest, I have no business doing lord quests... it is just that the quest spanned from lowmort to lord, so I ended up doing it all. |
| 2022-07-11 23:21 | Aeton | yeah it's fair just funny |
| 2022-07-11 23:20 | Qismat | Yeah... always check who built the quest. Hero builders tend to do more talky stuff. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:20 | Qismat | Previously, that room was multi-occupant, until two or three bladedancers used it to bypass shift and run Arcadia. |
| 2022-07-11 23:20 | Jonnan | ^, i made that mistake |
| 2022-07-11 23:19 | Aeton | 3- i failed the 125(300) quest the first time in part because I thought there was gonna be a fight. actually Malafont is very relaxed. he talks for a long time, and *then* you should spell up and fight him. (don't walk in with a trance up!) |
| 2022-07-11 23:19 | Qismat | If I actually saw players abusing that, I would probably fix it. |
| 2022-07-11 23:19 | Aeton | 2 - if you try and fail the 125(300) quest, Duke Malafont will sulk in his duel room until reboot (or maybe jjust reset?) |
| 2022-07-11 23:18 | Qismat | I am happy to leave that as it is until a lord tier immortal throws bricks at me. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:18 | Shalamaar | shrug i don't realy use this alt anyway |
| 2022-07-11 23:18 | Qismat | That sounds like a pretty cool unintended benefit. |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Jonnan | yes |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Shalamaar | oh i need III don't i |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Jonnan | 675/800/100/300/800 |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Shalamaar | hero ones* |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Shalamaar | cause i think i did hero one and i'm not lord 100 yet so i think i'm good |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Aeton | (the mobs do get a hit on you, so it's not totally free) |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Aeton | 1 - if you have started but not finished the 125(300) quest, then pp saerba, wait a while, wait a while longer, and yo u will end up in a special room on Arcadia. Now you get a free peek at any shift you want!!! e.g. "c plane karn" and you'll momentarily get to see what's at Karn shift before a mprog whisks you to thorngate. Free peek lasts only until you complete that quest |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Ranka | i got nothing |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | + Fae Avenger, which marks the end of it |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Shalamaar | am i up to date? |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | im at Bladtrance VIII |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | yours says Bladetrance II |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Shalamaar | i have bladetrance II |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | see my insignias |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Weniss | insignias |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Shalamaar | how can you tell what bld quest's you've done? |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Aeton | a couple of amusing things i saw during the bld 125(300) quest according to discord's copy of lordchat from august 2020 (!): |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | maybe you shouldn't touch it eh? :) |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | he repops in his mobchute |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Mizuho | wait what? |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | he has a key item for thunt |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | yes he is |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Qismat | Yori was not intended to repop anyway. |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Weniss | but if the bld dies in there,yori stays there until reboot |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | Oh, yes, good point. |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | bld has to enter first, leading doesnt matter |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | yes |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | If they aren't, you just get the regular lord stuff, no? |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | caree led my yori portion, i went in first to activiate the prog |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | or sent in first |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Mizuho | yea and if they don't it screws up probably |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | They need to be leading. |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Qismat | BLD has to walk in first, if I recall. |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Mizuho | i think it's just as simple as if you activate when yori is in arena or the group drags the bld into the room |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Qismat | Basically, if you can give me a clear description of the situation in which the bug arises, I should be able to either add extra progs to cover that case, or change the quest to work a bit differently to avoid it. |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm on night shift this week, which is why I am around now. |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | i doubt youll see one do it anyttime soon :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Weniss | can review at your leisure |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm lucky to see 12 spellbots and particularly determined hero. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | so |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Weniss | it'll all be on the discord cpture for lord |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | i havent seen any bld run that quest in 7 years |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm an Asian timezone immortal :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Qismat | If you send me the details, I can stick in some more defensive progging. |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | it was in alot of lordchats though |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | rosetta doesn't write notes |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | naw you were around iirc |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Qismat | I haven't personally received any bug reports about the BLD quests... this is the first I am hearing. I guess this was raised during one of my absences? |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Weniss | newer,I've had blds longer than the dc fix was in, at lord |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Jonnan | eris did a great job coding that.. the first mobprogs |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Qismat | That was a much, much later change, like revision 5 or something. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Jonnan | debug that and buff the rewards, retroactively give any buffs to blds who already completed it, tie the quest into maximizing the skill.. whambam |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Weniss | they transfer the ambassadors if they get stuck |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Weniss | check the dc mobprogs to how to correctly modify :) |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Qismat | The coders gave builders much better tools, and to be honest, waiting for reboots is a pain. Worse than London Buses. |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Jonnan | ^ |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | plstofix |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | this is a building issue, not a c one |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Mizuho | if you activate the last quest in arena it bugs out |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | yoir also stays in his little house until eboot if a bld fails the 800 quest or the moib loads in the arena |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Qismat | So, we don't need to rely on reboots for spacing out stuff now. |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | reboots were farrrrrr and farther |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | Back when i did them, oh 7 years ago? |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | Yep |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Qismat | Was this due to needing a reboot? |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | the level 800 one took a month and a half for me to finally complete due to Yori, so that wasnt fun |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Qismat | The issues are C code side, not builder content side, sadly. Nothing I can do. |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Barf | sounds like associate developer level coding |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Qismat | I think it is some of my better work. There are some custom rooms on the MUD that they use, too, which I am kinda fond of. |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Mizuho | it also took like 3 boots to even do the 800 one |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Jonnan | they were a pain in the rear end at times, but worth it |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Qismat | I busted my (rear end) making those quests. |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Jonnan | ^ |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Lupee | help bladedancer quests - it's spelled out in the helpful - if you got a class definer w/o doing it - then that's a bug |
| 2022-07-11 23:07 | Weniss | spr blds don't have much use for fancy swords, they still hit like barf |
| 2022-07-11 23:06 | Aeton | lore-wise it's pretty good imho |
| 2022-07-11 23:06 | Qismat | The situation with the bld quests lacking a mechanical benefit beyond the two swords is a sad state of affairs. |
| 2022-07-11 23:06 | Barf | not doing quests is a loophole? |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Barf | what |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Qismat | It's all in your player data. |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Qismat | I'm primarily making a point that it is crazily easy to find people that exploit bugs knowingly... it is super inadvisable. |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Lupee | you asked for more nerfs though |
| 2022-07-11 23:05 | Barf | gonna nerf blds that didnt do quests? cool |
| 2022-07-11 23:00 | Barf | only bt5 here, no quests |
| 2022-07-11 23:00 | Jonnan | 76/88/101 x2 |