| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2022-07-11 23:30 | Jonnan | blink egl |
| 2022-07-11 23:30 | Eglarion | whatever buffs they get,they should benefit spr blds and penalise any on byki's altlist regardless of race |
| 2022-07-11 23:29 | Jonnan | Im sure things got added :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:29 | Jonnan | Ive built too :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:29 | Jonnan | Blink |
| 2022-07-11 23:29 | Qismat | Have you been rummaging through all the options in the secret Immortal builder's documentation? :O |
| 2022-07-11 23:29 | Eglarion | please thoroughly test first so I don't have to lead a bunch of frustrated blds through mandatory broken quests |
| 2022-07-11 23:28 | Jonnan | like what? none of them really fit bld it seems |
| 2022-07-11 23:28 | Qismat | But the only coder who is likely to touch BLD code is Pulse and he is tasked with much more important and painful to think about code, to the best of my knowledge. |
| 2022-07-11 23:28 | Qismat | I can buff it with currently existing options. |
| 2022-07-11 23:28 | Eglarion | I think it was reported years ago when the changes first went in,but was never fixed |
| 2022-07-11 23:27 | Jonnan | Could you add something that benefits dances for it? similar to like 10/100 chances of halved stuff |
| 2022-07-11 23:27 | Qismat | Cheers for reporting that. Much appreciated. |
| 2022-07-11 23:27 | Eglarion | yeah |
| 2022-07-11 23:27 | Jonnan | id def be down for buffs |
| 2022-07-11 23:26 | Qismat | The insignia for helping? |
| 2022-07-11 23:26 | Eglarion | if a bld who hasn't done it yet is in the group and gets the insignia, they can't do it themselves later |
| 2022-07-11 23:26 | Qismat | So, I am considering... making the swords available at a lower quest, because 800 is super late. Buffing the swords more, because they are unique and therefore not enchantable. Changing the timing of the quest away from reboot to something like weekly (would not increase any reboot only regular content)... |
| 2022-07-11 23:26 | Eglarion | also there's an issue with the fae avenger quest and multiple blds in the group |
| 2022-07-11 23:24 | Mizuno | that was tings plan all along!!! |
| 2022-07-11 23:23 | Jonnan | sounds exploitable, fix it :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:23 | Qismat | Capital thinking. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:23 | Aeton | oh wow, ok so the 2 step economic move here is to stockpile blindfolds, then deliberately fail the quest after each reboot, and spike the price of your own blindfolds |
| 2022-07-11 23:22 | Qismat | Scarcity of gear helps to keep you all playing... *inno* |
| 2022-07-11 23:22 | Qismat | I think there is a fair argument for changing the timing mechanic away from reboots. |
| 2022-07-11 23:22 | Eglarion | it made blindfolds unavailable for months when rosetta kept doing it wrong on multiday |
| 2022-07-11 23:21 | Aeton | if counts were a lil higher, the one failure per reboot hing would be messy |
| 2022-07-11 23:21 | Qismat | To be honest, I have no business doing lord quests... it is just that the quest spanned from lowmort to lord, so I ended up doing it all. |
| 2022-07-11 23:21 | Aeton | yeah it's fair just funny |
| 2022-07-11 23:20 | Qismat | Yeah... always check who built the quest. Hero builders tend to do more talky stuff. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:20 | Qismat | Previously, that room was multi-occupant, until two or three bladedancers used it to bypass shift and run Arcadia. |
| 2022-07-11 23:20 | Jonnan | ^, i made that mistake |
| 2022-07-11 23:19 | Aeton | 3- i failed the 125(300) quest the first time in part because I thought there was gonna be a fight. actually Malafont is very relaxed. he talks for a long time, and *then* you should spell up and fight him. (don't walk in with a trance up!) |
| 2022-07-11 23:19 | Qismat | If I actually saw players abusing that, I would probably fix it. |
| 2022-07-11 23:19 | Aeton | 2 - if you try and fail the 125(300) quest, Duke Malafont will sulk in his duel room until reboot (or maybe jjust reset?) |
| 2022-07-11 23:18 | Qismat | I am happy to leave that as it is until a lord tier immortal throws bricks at me. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:18 | Shalamaar | shrug i don't realy use this alt anyway |
| 2022-07-11 23:18 | Qismat | That sounds like a pretty cool unintended benefit. |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Jonnan | yes |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Shalamaar | oh i need III don't i |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Jonnan | 675/800/100/300/800 |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Shalamaar | hero ones* |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Shalamaar | cause i think i did hero one and i'm not lord 100 yet so i think i'm good |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Aeton | (the mobs do get a hit on you, so it's not totally free) |
| 2022-07-11 23:17 | Aeton | 1 - if you have started but not finished the 125(300) quest, then pp saerba, wait a while, wait a while longer, and yo u will end up in a special room on Arcadia. Now you get a free peek at any shift you want!!! e.g. "c plane karn" and you'll momentarily get to see what's at Karn shift before a mprog whisks you to thorngate. Free peek lasts only until you complete that quest |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Ranka | i got nothing |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | + Fae Avenger, which marks the end of it |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Shalamaar | am i up to date? |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | im at Bladtrance VIII |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | yours says Bladetrance II |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Shalamaar | i have bladetrance II |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Jonnan | see my insignias |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Weniss | insignias |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Shalamaar | how can you tell what bld quest's you've done? |
| 2022-07-11 23:16 | Aeton | a couple of amusing things i saw during the bld 125(300) quest according to discord's copy of lordchat from august 2020 (!): |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | maybe you shouldn't touch it eh? :) |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | he repops in his mobchute |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Mizuho | wait what? |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | he has a key item for thunt |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Weniss | yes he is |
| 2022-07-11 23:15 | Qismat | Yori was not intended to repop anyway. |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Weniss | but if the bld dies in there,yori stays there until reboot |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | Oh, yes, good point. |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | bld has to enter first, leading doesnt matter |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | yes |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | If they aren't, you just get the regular lord stuff, no? |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | caree led my yori portion, i went in first to activiate the prog |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Jonnan | or sent in first |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Mizuho | yea and if they don't it screws up probably |
| 2022-07-11 23:14 | Qismat | They need to be leading. |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Qismat | BLD has to walk in first, if I recall. |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Mizuho | i think it's just as simple as if you activate when yori is in arena or the group drags the bld into the room |
| 2022-07-11 23:13 | Qismat | Basically, if you can give me a clear description of the situation in which the bug arises, I should be able to either add extra progs to cover that case, or change the quest to work a bit differently to avoid it. |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm on night shift this week, which is why I am around now. |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | i doubt youll see one do it anyttime soon :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Weniss | can review at your leisure |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm lucky to see 12 spellbots and particularly determined hero. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | so |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Weniss | it'll all be on the discord cpture for lord |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Jonnan | i havent seen any bld run that quest in 7 years |
| 2022-07-11 23:12 | Qismat | I'm an Asian timezone immortal :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Qismat | If you send me the details, I can stick in some more defensive progging. |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | it was in alot of lordchats though |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | rosetta doesn't write notes |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Mizuho | naw you were around iirc |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Qismat | I haven't personally received any bug reports about the BLD quests... this is the first I am hearing. I guess this was raised during one of my absences? |
| 2022-07-11 23:11 | Weniss | newer,I've had blds longer than the dc fix was in, at lord |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Jonnan | eris did a great job coding that.. the first mobprogs |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Qismat | That was a much, much later change, like revision 5 or something. :P |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Jonnan | debug that and buff the rewards, retroactively give any buffs to blds who already completed it, tie the quest into maximizing the skill.. whambam |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Weniss | they transfer the ambassadors if they get stuck |
| 2022-07-11 23:10 | Weniss | check the dc mobprogs to how to correctly modify :) |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Qismat | The coders gave builders much better tools, and to be honest, waiting for reboots is a pain. Worse than London Buses. |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Jonnan | ^ |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | plstofix |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | this is a building issue, not a c one |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Mizuho | if you activate the last quest in arena it bugs out |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Weniss | yoir also stays in his little house until eboot if a bld fails the 800 quest or the moib loads in the arena |
| 2022-07-11 23:09 | Qismat | So, we don't need to rely on reboots for spacing out stuff now. |
| 2022-07-11 23:08 | Jonnan | reboots were farrrrrr and farther |