| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2023-05-16 12:59 | Daeron | and, I'm not comfortable adding that without approval as it's kind of a bit of work |
| 2023-05-16 12:58 | Daeron | yeah, as you have mentioned there are similar mechanics, but those are all separate code, so we'd have to introduce the same sort of thing for rescue |
| 2023-05-16 12:56 | Zaffer | Not sure where it works on it though. |
| 2023-05-16 12:56 | Daeron | but, I am but a weak C coder, who knows what someone else could do |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Zaffer | Artificer does something like that? |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Psych | nod |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Daeron | than what Pyki is suggesting |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Daeron | that's different checks |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Hayami | ^ |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Psych | something has to be there since inclass vs ooc is a thing eh? |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | for skills |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | afaik, no code exists to check 'redux lag if X or Y' |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | code changes and progs |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | a quest for 'just' that would be a lot of work |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | level a mage, they are easy |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Hayami | also, quest for bld to ic rescue would be great |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Daeron | wzd are fine, they don't need more atm |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Delani | or quest for wizards to get manifest at 800 :) |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Hayami | just only vs psionic, everything else would still affect |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Hayami | well heavily modified version of tranq |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Hayami | ! |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Daeron | gth tranq? lol I'm going to veto that one |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Nefas | i like their quests |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Nefas | i was thinking a lord quest for bld to get inclass rescue would be fun |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Hayami | after i keep harping on for gth tranquility :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Hayami | ok |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Daeron | convince Malaclypse for now :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Hayami | i agree with that, but lets get either your or that on the same pay grade |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Daeron | or slightly higher than war-types |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | that's beyond my pay grade, tanking classes like bld/sld should have in class lag on rescue imo |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Hayami | to like 5 :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Hayami | while youre in there, tone down bld lag |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | 0-lag, lose 90% hps |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Veigar | while you're in there, remove lag for vital counter, it's an abomination *blink* |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Nefas | i heard its going to scale with level like racial breath! |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | get right on that |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | rofl Wolthu |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Hayami | er fol dusk, but ill be leading |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Daeron | oo, what's the racial kick change? |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Delani | tall order - make rescue no lag for monks *puppy eyes* |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Hayami | also, beckon |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Nefas | im really excited for the upcoming changes to racial kick too :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Veigar | agreed :D |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Hayami | ill check trip this run |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Daeron | vs opener would be nice |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Daeron | oh, yeah I can look at that too Veigar.. was going to look at trip b/c someone mentioned it likely doesn't work either |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Veigar | while you're testing, can you see if vital shots to open combat generate qi as well? (shf) I've never actually checked but help says it should work |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Nefas | thanks for the work you do on the mud, making it more fun! |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Hayami | id be fine if the payoff for doing was better overall damage |
| 2023-05-16 12:49 | Daeron | and, according to the helps, that is the intent |
| 2023-05-16 12:49 | Daeron | still not against other qi building skills.. however, not a lot of 'active' skills for monks to do |
| 2023-05-16 12:49 | Veigar | oh, daeron... |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Delani | heh |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | stop being lazy |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | do math |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Veigar | it's the same as wisdom, and wisdom * 2 |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | max is calculated |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Veigar | Appreciate you Daeron! |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Delani | just a thought, theres inner and outer qp in gmcp but not max for them, throw in max please |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | ok, well my tweak needs to be tested when I get a min. Shouldn't take long and then I'll push it to live to go in with Malaclypse's next changes |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Nefas | death is important! |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Veigar | chakra drain will be fun again! you can actually spend the run rescuing people instead of kicking to get more ac |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Hayami | also, personally, blast/wave damage is quite meh |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Ranchero | if only the payoff was worth it then :p |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Daeron | I'm ok with dead groupies, personally |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Daeron | tradeoffs! |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Ranchero | ^ |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Veigar | 100% |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Hayami | yep |
| 2023-05-16 12:45 | Daeron | yeah, seems awkward to be using active skills like kick and then a groupie dies because you couldn't rescue them |
| 2023-05-16 12:45 | Hayami | i did get a lot of inner qi last run due to tons of rescues midnfight |
| 2023-05-16 12:45 | Solano | getting qi from rescues is 80% of it |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Hayami | i kicked so much last run |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Hayami | ^Vei |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Veigar | the ability to have qi while not spamming kick will be quite nice |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Daeron | well it was a case of you not being in combat |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Hayami | just making rescue work and give inner qi, will be huge |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Daeron | ok, well maybe I'll put the rescue tweak in first and we can see how that goes |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Ranchero | Well, my feedback is based on current state, not after next reboot state :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Veigar | you'll have so much inner qi you won't be able to spend it all |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Hayami | i agree with veigar as well |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Veigar | honestly, if rescue generates qi everytime now, I think the deacy rate is fine |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Daeron | Veigar is pretty close |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Ranchero | especially with the new AI stuff and how 'active' mobs are, most monks don't seem to be able to utilize it well because they're busyrescuing etc |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Zaffer | They can keep their qi up longer :) |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Delani | lol @ zaffer |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Veigar | isn't it 1 inner qi per tick lost, and 1 outer qi every 2-3 ticks? not sure on outer |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Zaffer | Make it decay slower for smarter monks. |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Daeron | it's outlined in the helps.. dunno |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Hayami | it takes a lot to work it up and maintain as is |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Hayami | i actually would rather it clear when shifting |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Zaffer | Why should it decay at all? Maybe just clear it with shifting? |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Hayami | i couldve done 3 tsunamis that run had i paid attention |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Ranchero | except in small groups I don't see too many folks using it as intended. |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Daeron | And to be clear, I know what it is, but curious what people 'think' it is |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Hayami | i dont agree |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Hayami | eh? |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Daeron | wrong answer |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Ranchero | it's too fast |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Daeron | So, I believe I may have 'fixed' the issue wherein no qi given for rescues sometimes. I'm looking at tweaking the qi decay rate, but I'm curious what the general concensus is on what the decay is atm. |