| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2023-05-16 13:00 | Daeron | I like to sprinkle those in lightly now and then so it's not as noticeable |
| 2023-05-16 12:59 | Daeron | you mean add more? I already added some |
| 2023-05-16 12:59 | Hayami | ^seconded Zaff |
| 2023-05-16 12:59 | Zaffer | If you're going to, make sure there's a hardcoded check to not apply bonuses to Wolthu ;) |
| 2023-05-16 12:59 | Daeron | and, I'm not comfortable adding that without approval as it's kind of a bit of work |
| 2023-05-16 12:58 | Daeron | yeah, as you have mentioned there are similar mechanics, but those are all separate code, so we'd have to introduce the same sort of thing for rescue |
| 2023-05-16 12:56 | Zaffer | Not sure where it works on it though. |
| 2023-05-16 12:56 | Daeron | but, I am but a weak C coder, who knows what someone else could do |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Zaffer | Artificer does something like that? |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Psych | nod |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Daeron | than what Pyki is suggesting |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Daeron | that's different checks |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Hayami | ^ |
| 2023-05-16 12:55 | Psych | something has to be there since inclass vs ooc is a thing eh? |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | for skills |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | afaik, no code exists to check 'redux lag if X or Y' |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | code changes and progs |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | a quest for 'just' that would be a lot of work |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Daeron | level a mage, they are easy |
| 2023-05-16 12:54 | Hayami | also, quest for bld to ic rescue would be great |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Daeron | wzd are fine, they don't need more atm |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Delani | or quest for wizards to get manifest at 800 :) |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Hayami | just only vs psionic, everything else would still affect |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Hayami | well heavily modified version of tranq |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Hayami | ! |
| 2023-05-16 12:53 | Daeron | gth tranq? lol I'm going to veto that one |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Nefas | i like their quests |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Nefas | i was thinking a lord quest for bld to get inclass rescue would be fun |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Hayami | after i keep harping on for gth tranquility :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Hayami | ok |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Daeron | convince Malaclypse for now :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Hayami | i agree with that, but lets get either your or that on the same pay grade |
| 2023-05-16 12:52 | Daeron | or slightly higher than war-types |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | that's beyond my pay grade, tanking classes like bld/sld should have in class lag on rescue imo |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Hayami | to like 5 :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Hayami | while youre in there, tone down bld lag |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | 0-lag, lose 90% hps |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Veigar | while you're in there, remove lag for vital counter, it's an abomination *blink* |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Nefas | i heard its going to scale with level like racial breath! |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | get right on that |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Daeron | rofl Wolthu |
| 2023-05-16 12:51 | Hayami | er fol dusk, but ill be leading |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Daeron | oo, what's the racial kick change? |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Delani | tall order - make rescue no lag for monks *puppy eyes* |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Hayami | also, beckon |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Nefas | im really excited for the upcoming changes to racial kick too :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Veigar | agreed :D |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Hayami | ill check trip this run |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Daeron | vs opener would be nice |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Daeron | oh, yeah I can look at that too Veigar.. was going to look at trip b/c someone mentioned it likely doesn't work either |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Veigar | while you're testing, can you see if vital shots to open combat generate qi as well? (shf) I've never actually checked but help says it should work |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Nefas | thanks for the work you do on the mud, making it more fun! |
| 2023-05-16 12:50 | Hayami | id be fine if the payoff for doing was better overall damage |
| 2023-05-16 12:49 | Daeron | and, according to the helps, that is the intent |
| 2023-05-16 12:49 | Daeron | still not against other qi building skills.. however, not a lot of 'active' skills for monks to do |
| 2023-05-16 12:49 | Veigar | oh, daeron... |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Delani | heh |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | stop being lazy |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | do math |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Veigar | it's the same as wisdom, and wisdom * 2 |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | max is calculated |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Veigar | Appreciate you Daeron! |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Delani | just a thought, theres inner and outer qp in gmcp but not max for them, throw in max please |
| 2023-05-16 12:48 | Daeron | ok, well my tweak needs to be tested when I get a min. Shouldn't take long and then I'll push it to live to go in with Malaclypse's next changes |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Nefas | death is important! |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Veigar | chakra drain will be fun again! you can actually spend the run rescuing people instead of kicking to get more ac |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Hayami | also, personally, blast/wave damage is quite meh |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Ranchero | if only the payoff was worth it then :p |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Daeron | I'm ok with dead groupies, personally |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Daeron | tradeoffs! |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Ranchero | ^ |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Veigar | 100% |
| 2023-05-16 12:46 | Hayami | yep |
| 2023-05-16 12:45 | Daeron | yeah, seems awkward to be using active skills like kick and then a groupie dies because you couldn't rescue them |
| 2023-05-16 12:45 | Hayami | i did get a lot of inner qi last run due to tons of rescues midnfight |
| 2023-05-16 12:45 | Solano | getting qi from rescues is 80% of it |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Hayami | i kicked so much last run |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Hayami | ^Vei |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Veigar | the ability to have qi while not spamming kick will be quite nice |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Daeron | well it was a case of you not being in combat |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Hayami | just making rescue work and give inner qi, will be huge |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Daeron | ok, well maybe I'll put the rescue tweak in first and we can see how that goes |
| 2023-05-16 12:44 | Ranchero | Well, my feedback is based on current state, not after next reboot state :P |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Veigar | you'll have so much inner qi you won't be able to spend it all |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Hayami | i agree with veigar as well |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Veigar | honestly, if rescue generates qi everytime now, I think the deacy rate is fine |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Daeron | Veigar is pretty close |
| 2023-05-16 12:43 | Ranchero | especially with the new AI stuff and how 'active' mobs are, most monks don't seem to be able to utilize it well because they're busyrescuing etc |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Zaffer | They can keep their qi up longer :) |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Delani | lol @ zaffer |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Veigar | isn't it 1 inner qi per tick lost, and 1 outer qi every 2-3 ticks? not sure on outer |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Zaffer | Make it decay slower for smarter monks. |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Daeron | it's outlined in the helps.. dunno |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Hayami | it takes a lot to work it up and maintain as is |
| 2023-05-16 12:42 | Hayami | i actually would rather it clear when shifting |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Zaffer | Why should it decay at all? Maybe just clear it with shifting? |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Hayami | i couldve done 3 tsunamis that run had i paid attention |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Ranchero | except in small groups I don't see too many folks using it as intended. |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Daeron | And to be clear, I know what it is, but curious what people 'think' it is |
| 2023-05-16 12:41 | Hayami | i dont agree |