| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Gallahad | his note checks out imo |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Gallahad | last line stipulates more to come, and then there was a reboot 17hrs after it was sent |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | An immortal | You can also right notes on the Lord tier's behalf |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Stronmaus | stone proper is autoloot as well, not just mountain of madness. |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | An immortal | sure |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | Stronmaus | because 'more to come'? |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | An immortal | No, note is still accurate |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | Stronmaus | could you amend the note to accurately communicate the current autoloot situation please? I think it's the surprise factor that caused an issue just now |
| 2026-04-09 17:50 | Stronmaus | shrug, my runs will generally be group lotto still. |
| 2026-04-09 17:50 | An immortal | will that kinda work in the short term? |
| 2026-04-09 17:50 | An immortal | ok, so Mandel volunteering to compile a list of things that can be/maybe can be/definitely shouldn't be autolottoed.. cool! |
| 2026-04-09 17:49 | Stronmaus | which is often why I would choose something 'lesser' in a lotto, which plays to the 'agency' conversation. |
| 2026-04-09 17:49 | Stronmaus | I assigned a 'tier' based on the insignia level of the alt that needs it so it's variable *Shrug* |
| 2026-04-09 17:48 | Kanwal | That's the reason for the quotes. No such official thing but more player assigned tier (based on difficulty to get) |
| 2026-04-09 17:48 | An immortal | no such thing as a tier alleg that I know of/can link to |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | Kanwal | Can the autolotto be tuned down to a certain "tier" of alleg? |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | An immortal | Martyr agreed to compile a list so I can coordinate with him one what can/can't be |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | Cruelty | dumb question- but could you replace it with like an area based 'alleg token' so you could trade it to a mob for one of the possible items from that plane? |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | Kabrakan | try /s next time |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | An immortal | outland keep I think is fine to keep autolottoed |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | An immortal | I'm still lurking and was being facetious - not going to remove it |
| 2026-04-09 17:46 | Kabrakan | why ask for feedback then? |
| 2026-04-09 17:46 | An immortal | we can do that Alrin, but that won't fix the issue people seem to be upset about (a better chance at picking RNG instead of the live RNG). |
| 2026-04-09 17:45 | An immortal | I'm sorry I asked Mala to add that option - I'll just undo our attempts at making things better and then the drama will continue to just be the afk after-run folks |
| 2026-04-09 17:45 | Alrin | wonder if we can get an insig that decays after 30min or so to block you from re-winning an autoloot thing so the distribution of items is more fair? |
| 2026-04-09 17:44 | Kanwal | "shut up and adapt" the typical Avatar way |
| 2026-04-09 17:44 | Kabrakan | can more than one person get an autolotto for it? |
| 2026-04-09 17:44 | Jekyll | alternatively, run the runs many more times :) |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Stronmaus | nod, would have done so on this run but was not expecting eelord to be autoloot and it just caused strife *sigh* |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Kanwal | It's not about removing the RNG, it's about removing choice. If I come 3rd in lotto and the 2 before me want different things, I STILL have a chance at the thing I want |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Stronmaus | You get to pick what you want imp, that's not the same |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Jekyll | so do like Daeron says, state at the start of the run, pass all items, and run a lotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Imptastic | would have the same rng in a normal lotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Stronmaus | and if there's some autoloot and some regular loot, you can also end up with an imbalance in loot. we already saw that. |
| 2026-04-09 17:42 | Stronmaus | ^ |
| 2026-04-09 17:42 | Kanwal | Autolotto is a cool concept but the point of not getting what you want is valid. If you go on a run for a specific piece but RNG gives it to someone else and removes the choice entirely, that's a fair concern #justsaying |
| 2026-04-09 17:41 | Least | it doesn't get me the items i want quicker or easier |
| 2026-04-09 17:41 | Jekyll | you did Least? lucky :P |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Imptastic | makes things quicker and easier |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Least | despite winning like three random alleg items in one run |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Imptastic | its not a secondary bonus. just autolottos the item |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Kabrakan | I think it would be better to still provide one from the corpse for the group |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Least | i've so far not liked it |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Imptastic | I like it |
| 2026-04-09 17:39 | Kabrakan | overall, I like the idea as a secondary bonus for group play, eg. when group size > 1 |
| 2026-04-09 17:39 | Daeron | also need to go, interested in the thoughts to see if we can work around it or just yank it all out and not bother |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | if issues, let us know |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Gaxx | mace passed to group leader, thx for run, afk |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | I think people were getting gith keep items earlier today |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Kabrakan | nod |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | group of 1 |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | you get the item for the group :) |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | yes |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Kabrakan | will it work the same if you solo a mob? |
| 2026-04-09 17:37 | Daeron | point in case: echo to group when someone wins an autolotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:37 | Daeron | One person did mention to me there was potential issue and I fixed it right away |
| 2026-04-09 17:37 | Least | well, having done a few runs with it now, i don't really like that there isn't a chance to have a preference over which items, i.e. i may want an eg lavabomb and somebody else may not |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | yeah, hard to adjust implementation of things complained about in private, just sayin |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Gaxx | so immortals are aware |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | or on discord, I'm on there too |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | ^ |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Gaxx | complaints should probably be directed to public channels or notes then |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | then, how can I comment? |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Stronmaus | not necessarily on public channels Daeron |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | been lurking all day |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Stronmaus | that is a nice bonus |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Stronmaus | sorry, missed the secon dhalf of that message in spam |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | so, sounds sus |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | I have seen zero complaints aside from you just now |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Cruelty | does it work similar to hellbreach amulets now? |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Stronmaus | several folks have already complained about it, maybe just not where you've seen it? |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | bonus, which nobody has complained about yet is you can be overburndened and still get the item |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Daeron | well it's still looted, if YOU want to run your group that way, mention it at the start, and then lotto as per nomal, I don't care |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Stronmaus | and i've been on runs with 30s of lotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Stronmaus | To not include anb inherent bias against people who do alleg |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Daeron | I've been on lord runs where there was 20 minutes waiting for lotto, then regrouping |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Stronmaus | maybe frame that as 'rewards for participating in a run'? |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Least | it also seems to remove the agency of having preferences over what you choose |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Daeron | a couple minutes? |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Daeron | I feel there are bigger issues then complaining about not getting alleg |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Stronmaus | minutes usually spent regenning anyways |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Daeron | in theory yes |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Stronmaus | all for the sake of saving a couple of minutes |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Stronmaus | biggest issue si that in theory, someone could win everything and others get nothing |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Imptastic | im glad I found the bug and it was an easy fix |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Daeron | toss a note or something if more are not working, I did test them all, but not sure how rock hammer got broke |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Gaxx | so this mace in theory, i have won off autolotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Daeron | I will update them as I see them wrong unntil reboot |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Gaxx | because you messed up rock hammer |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Daeron | the current rock hammer is "fixed" |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Gaxx | so all in earth realm alleg wise besides rock hammer is autolotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:31 | Daeron | That make sense? |
| 2026-04-09 17:31 | Daeron | b/c I messed that one up |
| 2026-04-09 17:31 | Daeron | all earth realm should be setup I think.. aside from rock hammer |
| 2026-04-09 17:30 | Daeron | note also says more to come |
| 2026-04-09 17:30 | Daeron | oh 2 |
| 2026-04-09 17:30 | Daeron | 1+1 is what? |
| 2026-04-09 17:30 | Stronmaus | note says just moutnain of madness, not eelord |
| 2026-04-09 17:30 | Daeron | *note |
| 2026-04-09 17:30 | Daeron | I'll leave the decision up to groups as the group gets one item.. the "intention" as per the not is to bipass the need to lotto all the things at the end of the run |