| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2026-04-09 17:53 | Gallahad | anyway i dont care all i needed was the mace, hence following self |
| 2026-04-09 17:53 | Gallahad | well there was two reboots, so which one was it? |
| 2026-04-09 17:53 | Kabrakan | if we're going to be pedantic, I'll pedant all day long |
| 2026-04-09 17:53 | An immortal | easy |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | An immortal | Thanks Ama :) |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Stronmaus | nah, note says 'more in future reboots'. that reboot would be the one that puts those 3 areas into effect. |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Gallahad | his note checks out imo |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Gallahad | last line stipulates more to come, and then there was a reboot 17hrs after it was sent |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | An immortal | You can also right notes on the Lord tier's behalf |
| 2026-04-09 17:52 | Stronmaus | stone proper is autoloot as well, not just mountain of madness. |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | An immortal | sure |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | Stronmaus | because 'more to come'? |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | An immortal | No, note is still accurate |
| 2026-04-09 17:51 | Stronmaus | could you amend the note to accurately communicate the current autoloot situation please? I think it's the surprise factor that caused an issue just now |
| 2026-04-09 17:50 | Stronmaus | shrug, my runs will generally be group lotto still. |
| 2026-04-09 17:50 | An immortal | will that kinda work in the short term? |
| 2026-04-09 17:50 | An immortal | ok, so Mandel volunteering to compile a list of things that can be/maybe can be/definitely shouldn't be autolottoed.. cool! |
| 2026-04-09 17:49 | Stronmaus | which is often why I would choose something 'lesser' in a lotto, which plays to the 'agency' conversation. |
| 2026-04-09 17:49 | Stronmaus | I assigned a 'tier' based on the insignia level of the alt that needs it so it's variable *Shrug* |
| 2026-04-09 17:48 | Kanwal | That's the reason for the quotes. No such official thing but more player assigned tier (based on difficulty to get) |
| 2026-04-09 17:48 | An immortal | no such thing as a tier alleg that I know of/can link to |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | Kanwal | Can the autolotto be tuned down to a certain "tier" of alleg? |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | An immortal | Martyr agreed to compile a list so I can coordinate with him one what can/can't be |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | Cruelty | dumb question- but could you replace it with like an area based 'alleg token' so you could trade it to a mob for one of the possible items from that plane? |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | Kabrakan | try /s next time |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | An immortal | outland keep I think is fine to keep autolottoed |
| 2026-04-09 17:47 | An immortal | I'm still lurking and was being facetious - not going to remove it |
| 2026-04-09 17:46 | Kabrakan | why ask for feedback then? |
| 2026-04-09 17:46 | An immortal | we can do that Alrin, but that won't fix the issue people seem to be upset about (a better chance at picking RNG instead of the live RNG). |
| 2026-04-09 17:45 | An immortal | I'm sorry I asked Mala to add that option - I'll just undo our attempts at making things better and then the drama will continue to just be the afk after-run folks |
| 2026-04-09 17:45 | Alrin | wonder if we can get an insig that decays after 30min or so to block you from re-winning an autoloot thing so the distribution of items is more fair? |
| 2026-04-09 17:44 | Kanwal | "shut up and adapt" the typical Avatar way |
| 2026-04-09 17:44 | Kabrakan | can more than one person get an autolotto for it? |
| 2026-04-09 17:44 | Jekyll | alternatively, run the runs many more times :) |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Stronmaus | nod, would have done so on this run but was not expecting eelord to be autoloot and it just caused strife *sigh* |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Kanwal | It's not about removing the RNG, it's about removing choice. If I come 3rd in lotto and the 2 before me want different things, I STILL have a chance at the thing I want |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Stronmaus | You get to pick what you want imp, that's not the same |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Jekyll | so do like Daeron says, state at the start of the run, pass all items, and run a lotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Imptastic | would have the same rng in a normal lotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:43 | Stronmaus | and if there's some autoloot and some regular loot, you can also end up with an imbalance in loot. we already saw that. |
| 2026-04-09 17:42 | Stronmaus | ^ |
| 2026-04-09 17:42 | Kanwal | Autolotto is a cool concept but the point of not getting what you want is valid. If you go on a run for a specific piece but RNG gives it to someone else and removes the choice entirely, that's a fair concern #justsaying |
| 2026-04-09 17:41 | Least | it doesn't get me the items i want quicker or easier |
| 2026-04-09 17:41 | Jekyll | you did Least? lucky :P |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Imptastic | makes things quicker and easier |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Least | despite winning like three random alleg items in one run |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Imptastic | its not a secondary bonus. just autolottos the item |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Kabrakan | I think it would be better to still provide one from the corpse for the group |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Least | i've so far not liked it |
| 2026-04-09 17:40 | Imptastic | I like it |
| 2026-04-09 17:39 | Kabrakan | overall, I like the idea as a secondary bonus for group play, eg. when group size > 1 |
| 2026-04-09 17:39 | Daeron | also need to go, interested in the thoughts to see if we can work around it or just yank it all out and not bother |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | if issues, let us know |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Gaxx | mace passed to group leader, thx for run, afk |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | I think people were getting gith keep items earlier today |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Kabrakan | nod |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | group of 1 |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | you get the item for the group :) |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Daeron | yes |
| 2026-04-09 17:38 | Kabrakan | will it work the same if you solo a mob? |
| 2026-04-09 17:37 | Daeron | point in case: echo to group when someone wins an autolotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:37 | Daeron | One person did mention to me there was potential issue and I fixed it right away |
| 2026-04-09 17:37 | Least | well, having done a few runs with it now, i don't really like that there isn't a chance to have a preference over which items, i.e. i may want an eg lavabomb and somebody else may not |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | yeah, hard to adjust implementation of things complained about in private, just sayin |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Gaxx | so immortals are aware |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | or on discord, I'm on there too |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | ^ |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Gaxx | complaints should probably be directed to public channels or notes then |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Daeron | then, how can I comment? |
| 2026-04-09 17:36 | Stronmaus | not necessarily on public channels Daeron |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | been lurking all day |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Stronmaus | that is a nice bonus |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Stronmaus | sorry, missed the secon dhalf of that message in spam |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | so, sounds sus |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | I have seen zero complaints aside from you just now |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Cruelty | does it work similar to hellbreach amulets now? |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Stronmaus | several folks have already complained about it, maybe just not where you've seen it? |
| 2026-04-09 17:35 | Daeron | bonus, which nobody has complained about yet is you can be overburndened and still get the item |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Daeron | well it's still looted, if YOU want to run your group that way, mention it at the start, and then lotto as per nomal, I don't care |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Stronmaus | and i've been on runs with 30s of lotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Stronmaus | To not include anb inherent bias against people who do alleg |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Daeron | I've been on lord runs where there was 20 minutes waiting for lotto, then regrouping |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Stronmaus | maybe frame that as 'rewards for participating in a run'? |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Least | it also seems to remove the agency of having preferences over what you choose |
| 2026-04-09 17:34 | Daeron | a couple minutes? |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Daeron | I feel there are bigger issues then complaining about not getting alleg |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Stronmaus | minutes usually spent regenning anyways |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Daeron | in theory yes |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Stronmaus | all for the sake of saving a couple of minutes |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Stronmaus | biggest issue si that in theory, someone could win everything and others get nothing |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Imptastic | im glad I found the bug and it was an easy fix |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Daeron | toss a note or something if more are not working, I did test them all, but not sure how rock hammer got broke |
| 2026-04-09 17:33 | Gaxx | so this mace in theory, i have won off autolotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Daeron | I will update them as I see them wrong unntil reboot |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Gaxx | because you messed up rock hammer |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Daeron | the current rock hammer is "fixed" |
| 2026-04-09 17:32 | Gaxx | so all in earth realm alleg wise besides rock hammer is autolotto |
| 2026-04-09 17:31 | Daeron | That make sense? |
| 2026-04-09 17:31 | Daeron | b/c I messed that one up |
| 2026-04-09 17:31 | Daeron | all earth realm should be setup I think.. aside from rock hammer |