| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Quickblade | ripper hits the way ALL melee classes should hit |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Lupee | it's a little more difficult on the double hit chars, but ripper it was super easy to see b/c you're always dual wielding basically. |
| 2024-09-16 13:28 | Siveril | a kzn war might not hit as hard as a giant but it'll land a lot more attacks per round for example |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Quickblade | Im thinking that the only reason I liked bzk was because I used to have really insane gear and that made up for the shortcomings I take issue with now |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Lupee | I noticed on my ripper if my HR is below 100 |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Siveril | dex and hr both matter for accuracy |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Lupee | a hog is not a fully representative of mud mechanics |
| 2024-09-16 13:27 | Bruhm | that's at 34 str, 22 dex |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Hippo | ichiban is 101/105 unspelled |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Bruhm | YOu should work on that. |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Bruhm | I'm 97/102 unspelled |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Quickblade | but if hitroll matters then why do we miss so much in hogs |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Lupee | fully spelled, you want at LEAST 100+ HR |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Maxine | very conservative Bruhm |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Quickblade | 63hr unsp |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Siveril | so obviously there is some appeal |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Bruhm | ^ hr/dr stats? |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Siveril | I'd say as a conservative estimate 50% of the players afk sponge most of their runs |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Lupee | so again, what's your hit roll? |
| 2024-09-16 13:26 | Quickblade | also hitting for less than Ive seen on cratable mages on a regular bases w/o mouch in the way of explanation or reason |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Bruhm | I mean, the data is still there, it's not flagged the way you want it to be. You can see how many times you hit successfully, how many times the mobs dodge or ripose or shield block (I believe). The only one you can't 'see' is a failed skill like 4th attack, which you can pretty easily infer with really basic math |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Lupee | what's your hit roll? |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Hippo | if you're just going to afk sponge I don't even know why you'd play the game |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Archimedes | thats what sucks about not having hog on permanently, you have to deal with questionable mechanics such as gaining exp requiring effort |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Quickblade | not *just* that I cant see |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Hippo | that seems like a weird reaction to "I can't see what I want to see in damage output" |
| 2024-09-16 13:25 | Siveril | I thought you'd been doing that for decades |
| 2024-09-16 13:24 | Bruhm | QB, easy enough to track attempts though, so you can determine how often you're firing your 3rd 4th attacks |
| 2024-09-16 13:24 | Quickblade | perhaps I should just hop on the bandwagon and just afk and trigger my way thru ehas |
| 2024-09-16 13:24 | Hippo | I just don't see an issue with how it is I guess |
| 2024-09-16 13:24 | Bruhm | the next was 1fail, 2 success, the next 2 success, no fail message |
| 2024-09-16 13:23 | Bruhm | Hipp, doesn't quite do what they're asking, sadly. I just tested it and I got 1 round with 'you almost clip', one successful hit, and one 'the mob dodges' message, for 3 total attempts. the next round was 4 successful attempts |
| 2024-09-16 13:23 | Lupee | if you have 4 skills that determine if you land all your hits: second attack, third attack, double hit, weapon skill, etc - all at 95% - combined, that's still about 20% chance it'll fail. mob dodge, AC/HR roll miss, shield block, etc - all plays a role, and I imagine a lot is hidden on purpose. |
| 2024-09-16 13:23 | Quickblade | even with +battleself only see 2-3 lines per round for myself |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Quickblade | I know |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Hippo | config +battleself |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Hippo | You almost clip a glacial guardian but it doges at the last second! |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Quickblade | I cant have any reasonable knowledge or understanding if I cant compile data |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Bruhm | I would not not like to see that. That would be so wildly spammy. |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Hippo | A glacial guardian holds up its weapon to block your strike! |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Maxine | soudns right |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Quickblade | yes |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Siveril | it's specifically nerfed for pros, I'm told |
| 2024-09-16 13:22 | Bruhm | each time you fail? |
| 2024-09-16 13:21 | Bruhm | you would like to see 'you did not successfully roll a 3rd attack this round |
| 2024-09-16 13:21 | Quickblade | I want t know that I hit 1 time per round because the other 5 got parries or blocked by a mob w/o a weapon or shield |
| 2024-09-16 13:21 | Torvoth | i believe you have reduced chances of landing second, third, fourth etc. attacks e.g. 75% chance of a 2nd attack, 50% of third and so on (percentages not accurate) |
| 2024-09-16 13:21 | Quickblade | I want to always see it. |
| 2024-09-16 13:20 | Summasault | You always roll for it, you just don't see it because well, you didn't hit for it |
| 2024-09-16 13:20 | Quickblade | its would still show a lone for doge/block/[parry |
| 2024-09-16 13:20 | Summasault | Mobs dodge too |
| 2024-09-16 13:20 | Quickblade | I have 3rd attack and double hit at 95pct if I look at full battlespam I do NOT attempt 6 attacks 95pct of the time |
| 2024-09-16 13:20 | Lupee | gotta get your HR up. at about 115+ of HR at hero, I land my hits pretty consistently. |
| 2024-09-16 13:19 | Summasault | archers don't land every shot every round, especailly with scattershot, their highest possible damage output. casters don't successfully surge or quicken or even cast each opportunity (race dependent) |
| 2024-09-16 13:19 | Maxine | last evo fdk rip is top tier melee |
| 2024-09-16 13:19 | Quickblade | thats my issue with melee classes |
| 2024-09-16 13:19 | Summasault | nothing does. |
| 2024-09-16 13:19 | Hippo | drg bzk pretty frequently are high up on damage lists end run |
| 2024-09-16 13:19 | Summasault | no |
| 2024-09-16 13:18 | Quickblade | do drg bzk actually land all 6 attacks every round |
| 2024-09-16 13:18 | Lupee | I find trl rip is pretty safe if you wanna play a ripper and do ripper skills 40% of the run |
| 2024-09-16 13:18 | Hippo | you can just not die and do decent damage as a drg bzk |
| 2024-09-16 13:18 | Quickblade | and Id finally be able to do decent damage AND not die |
| 2024-09-16 13:17 | Quickblade | that would make me make a drg rip and qp lust onto it |
| 2024-09-16 13:17 | Quickblade | if I could qp bloodlust Id be farmimng qps super hard |
| 2024-09-16 13:17 | Lupee | can't qp bloodlust |
| 2024-09-16 13:17 | Torvoth | kob war pretty nice too |
| 2024-09-16 13:17 | Quickblade | tear is bloodlust at home imho |
| 2024-09-16 13:17 | Maxine | and qp bloodlust |
| 2024-09-16 13:16 | Hippo | so just make a drg rip |
| 2024-09-16 13:16 | Lupee | drg bzk is pretty close to that |
| 2024-09-16 13:16 | Hippo | rip can heal themselves kind of differently from bzk |
| 2024-09-16 13:16 | Quickblade | I need an alt that has golem damage mod and racial armor, has ripper skills, and has bloodlust. |
| 2024-09-16 12:52 | Quickblade | *sniff* |
| 2024-09-16 12:52 | Siveril | no groups for pros alts, one year |
| 2024-09-16 12:52 | Quickblade | autorescue LFG! |
| 2024-09-16 11:35 | Kodak | that's my special talent |
| 2024-09-16 11:35 | Kodak | thata' |
| 2024-09-16 11:35 | Kodak | i speak with 2 feet in my mouth often u should know this by now |
| 2024-09-16 11:34 | Kodak | that is a bunch nm |
| 2024-09-16 11:34 | Psych | shadow, sceptre, pgems, gray staff is all that was run I believe |
| 2024-09-16 11:31 | Nefas | those are the only 2 im aware of but likely there were more |
| 2024-09-16 11:30 | Kodak | so a few not a bunch :P |
| 2024-09-16 11:30 | Kodak | that's all right |
| 2024-09-16 11:29 | Nefas | staff pgems |
| 2024-09-16 11:29 | Kodak | what all did she lead? |
| 2024-09-16 11:06 | Alyce | someone left 5 emerald sceptres at sanc e |
| 2024-09-16 10:28 | Ordyh | Any groups need a hitter? |
| 2024-09-16 10:23 | Maan | essences |
| 2024-09-16 10:20 | Hydros | Anyone leading? |
| 2024-09-16 10:04 | Sumnissan | afk a bit |
| 2024-09-16 09:42 | Caree | <gray 2e. beckon |
| 2024-09-16 09:15 | Caree | <pgem 2e. beckon |
| 2024-09-16 09:14 | Net | i no likey |
| 2024-09-16 09:14 | Ekivu | this sounds very reasonable |
| 2024-09-16 09:14 | Ekivu | i'm good with you winning bad lottos and saving the good stuff for me |
| 2024-09-16 09:13 | Net | pls, let me win the good lottos instead tho?.. |
| 2024-09-16 09:13 | Caree | he's a bug |
| 2024-09-16 09:13 | Caree | report him bug |
| 2024-09-16 09:13 | Ekivu | hax, this net winning all the lottos! |