| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | mutants re ---- |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Seyonne | There have been attempts to boost mud count, and there are ongoing efforts to explore boosting mud counts. |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | jk |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | cheese |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Wolthu | which is, Hayami |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Hayami | lets stay on topic yall |
| 2022-07-05 22:53 | Vamp | boost the mud count before making changes? |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Menace | multiplay 1 per tier ? |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Kali | People seem to have a hard enough time paying attention to one run, I'm not sure I want them trying to manage 3 at once :) |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Kelemvor | thats giving him issues |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Vamp | how abt we keep thing as it is now, and run a marketing project to get in more NEW players first |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Hayami | huzzah |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Kelemvor | titan is done except for problems with battle code is what mala said last year |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Seyonne | Will also say, based on another player's idea along time back, multiplay 1 per tier is also being considered, in wake of a new tier |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Madrivax | Can we stop absolutely everything that's happening right now and just have Imms finish Titan first? |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Mythril | i think a lot of the soloing, private runs are due to the fact that 50% of the group is afk the entire run, or utterly useless, and when you ask someone to bring an alt to a group to help out, its like pulling teeth |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Dzak | I think mutants are, in fact, a solution to low player counts more than they are a problem to balance |
| 2022-07-05 22:52 | Wolthu | :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Vamp | can, wolthu gimme your pw |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Menace | i dont even have a legend :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Zaffer | Could implementing limited multiplay (2 chars/player) in public groups be considered alongside any changes? It would help off-hours grouping too. |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Wolthu | can we transfer all Vamp's alts to Mocci's altlist? |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Vamp | i wouldnt mind exploring lgd if i can go back there |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Hayami | or just. burn it |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Seyonne | Also in discussion |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Hayami | :D |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Hayami | can we fix legend? |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Vamp | considering the low count and lack of NEW players? |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Seyonne | That is also in discussion. |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Vamp | can we have troika set to 1 pax instead of 3? |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Seyonne | Everyone here is going to have different gripes and different ideas. I appreciate the folks who are spending the time to speak their thoughts in a constructive way |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Vamp | with |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Chalu | if you seriously want to solve the problem of overpowered 999 lords, make a next tier that people want to play or make lord a LOT more solo-able for non mutants |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Wolthu | low count |
| 2022-07-05 22:51 | Vamp | even if u mutants! |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Vamp | why do i find running shard difficult? |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Wolthu | without running out of mana |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Hayami | hes lazy |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Wolthu | nah, DiY only surge 3 whole run |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Seyonne | Certainly, and that was what some of the anti-solo changes tried to address |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Hayami | depends on the mutant in question |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Menace | they can surge 5 alot :) |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Shadowin | that's not right at all, menae |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Vamp | 30k+ hp can barely survive shift |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Mythril | whats more of a problem is all the t0 alleg hands out to certain people who can camp/solo/find what they need and do alleg on 20+ alts each nite, that seems a bit unbalanced too |
| 2022-07-05 22:50 | Dzak | ha, I wish |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Hayami | thats why byki isnt a mutant, can only surge 3 for 30 tics :/ |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Wolthu | so much love, am flattered. |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Menace | or more |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Menace | mutant surge 5 for half the run tho |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Vamp | so leave mutant alone! |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Dzak | wolthu is 3 tanks. you're throwing 3 troll monks at it |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Vamp | the mutant still loses |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Vamp | 5 players can cast brimstone in one round, 1 mutant equals ony 1 brimstone |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Hayami | well crap, why didnt we do that before |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Seyonne | Try not to take everything I'm saying too literally, though I realize this is text and that's easy to do. Before shard balancing was done, for example, a difficult area to receive t0 gear that got steamrolled by a relatively low amount of players due to overpowered characters was seen as a bit of a problem |
| 2022-07-05 22:49 | Hayami | wait we can throw wolthu now? |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Kali | To put it bluntly, throwing a 120k hp troll monk at things really makes them either irrelevant or unreasonably deadly to any normal character |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Wolthu | lol |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Dzak | just think of a mutant as more than 1 player. 5 mutants is just the equivalent of 10 normal alts, so whats the difference if a 10-man area is run by the equivalent of a "normal" 10-man? |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Hayami | Wolthu, correction, thats always the case... so what else is new :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Menace | with auto off :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Wolthu | Menace, correction with an afk Wolthu. |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Chalu | how does the number of people in a group take the fun out of building/running an area? |
| 2022-07-05 22:48 | Vixelle | during offpeak hours |
| 2022-07-05 22:47 | Menace | we even failed with wolthu :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:47 | Hayami | Believe me, I fully understand that frustation, especially given how this conversation mirrors the one had when I was announcing DC |
| 2022-07-05 22:47 | Wolthu | because we worked hard to have those kind of alts, not our fault that the game allowed us to |
| 2022-07-05 22:47 | Vixelle | lord runs are already impossible during offpeak hours. without mutants help, you are basically killing off the more challenging lordruns |
| 2022-07-05 22:47 | Seyonne | As a builder, it can feel demotivating to try to create a cool/fun area when you know someone might steamroll it with 4-5 people |
| 2022-07-05 22:47 | Vamp | caree is still spamming the death info |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Seyonne | I have no beef with the decision to cap stats, but I am trying to circle back to a discussion that we've tried to have many times to bring more life back to the team overall to contribute as well |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Wolthu | true |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Vamp | 150k is too low cap. push it up to 200k |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Wolthu | what more can they want to, drive us away :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Vamp | it's like yearly inflation if the mobs size are increased further in this difficult player-short age |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Hayami | they need to cap it again |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Wolthu | capped 150k is the damage already |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Madrivax | So if people are leaving regardless, raise your hand if you are leaving. Then those ppl can just stop talking while we discuss things :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Shadowin | they've already capped stats. they now arent happy with that decision |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Hayami | 150k is ludicrous |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Vixelle | nod hayami, cap them at 150k ;) |
| 2022-07-05 22:46 | Seyonne | That has worked in some cases, but not for all. |
| 2022-07-05 22:45 | Vamp | the mobs had alread been bluff last year |
| 2022-07-05 22:45 | Hayami | im all for capping 999 stats, but i dont want a reroll |
| 2022-07-05 22:45 | Wolthu | ^ |
| 2022-07-05 22:45 | Vixelle | rather than stunt the mutant, buff the mobs |
| 2022-07-05 22:45 | Seyonne | I'll put this out there - I'm a mutant. I'm not hell bent on this, I'm just hoping to explore various avenues and we have seen good tangential ideas come out of discussions. |
| 2022-07-05 22:45 | Vamp | and more who are leaving when these suggested changes kick in |
| 2022-07-05 22:44 | Vamp | and it's even harder to get a 20pax group with 6 who left |
| 2022-07-05 22:44 | Chalu | implement mana pots, will make bringing casters along much less prohibitive for non-regen runs |
| 2022-07-05 22:44 | Wolthu | at least we all know how to manage what kind of groups to get runs done regardless if we have mutants or not. Imms are hellbend of deleting mutants in general :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:44 | Hayami | oh yeah, i did 11.3k the second run vamp :P |
| 2022-07-05 22:44 | Hayami | and that run was a workout |
| 2022-07-05 22:44 | Vamp | i feel xp cheated |
| 2022-07-05 22:43 | Seyonne | I've got a decent amount of incoming tells - would appreciate if folks could try to keep to public channels because it's hard to maintain many threads of conversation (especially 1 vs many) |
| 2022-07-05 22:43 | Vamp | wasn't it the monk!? |
| 2022-07-05 22:43 | Wolthu | yeah |
| 2022-07-05 22:43 | Jonnan | we did fine with 2 tanks, bld is key tho |
| 2022-07-05 22:43 | Vamp | don't touch the players |