| Timestamp | Sender | Message |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Rairila | yes. if game purity is more important than anything else then remove 999+ gains |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Keysar | figures |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Ebin | no |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Daeron | I bet there are 998's that can solo some stuff |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Keysar | ebin u got any mutants? |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Daeron | Rairila are you suggesting just remove 999+ gains all together? |
| 2023-08-01 20:47 | Rairila | there isn't any lord that can solo at lord 998 stats - so if you want to keep game balance. remove all 999+ gains to keep the game pure. |
| 2023-08-01 20:46 | Ebin | s5 a whole run is dumb too |
| 2023-08-01 20:46 | Mabu | just stop lord leveling at lord 100, force us to legend |
| 2023-08-01 20:46 | Chalu | compromise...125k |
| 2023-08-01 20:46 | Rairila | yeah.. or hear me out.. make lord level cap 999 - revert all lord gains past 999+ to what they would be at 999 - and call it a day |
| 2023-08-01 20:46 | Duskrta | and then we can blame wolthu, I like this strat |
| 2023-08-01 20:46 | Ebin | 100k |
| 2023-08-01 20:45 | Xiphoid | or just drop the cap to 100k and let folks play silly beggars with -hp gear all they like? |
| 2023-08-01 20:45 | Wolthu | rairila said it all |
| 2023-08-01 20:45 | Wolthu | BINGO! |
| 2023-08-01 20:45 | Rairila | just delete all the -hp stats from all the gear |
| 2023-08-01 20:45 | Rairila | -hp is a game mechanic - you say it's a loophole, but it's a game mechanic. why have -hp gear if it's not useful? |
| 2023-08-01 20:44 | Daeron | ^ |
| 2023-08-01 20:44 | Ebin | youre not wearing gear to inflate your hps, youre wearing gear when you level to exploit a 'loophole' where it allows you to gain hps over the max allowed without gear |
| 2023-08-01 20:44 | Xiphoid | caps were intended as a stop-gap to prevent the mutant problem getting completely out of hand, we still haven't found the rest of a solution that players won't become extremely upset about |
| 2023-08-01 20:44 | Wolthu | the cap exists but it is NOT hard cap, its soft cap. That is on you guys. |
| 2023-08-01 20:43 | Mabu | you'll have to be happy with just mana/move gains now, wolthu |
| 2023-08-01 20:43 | Wolthu | u know all the gears in game, do that |
| 2023-08-01 20:43 | Tyberos | I think knowing that the "stat cap" is a certain number and using items to get past it is a clear loophole. You know what the intent of the stat cap is, regardless of how you want to argue the validity of it. |
| 2023-08-01 20:43 | Daeron | explain your math again wolthu pls |
| 2023-08-01 20:43 | Wolthu | my issue here is that xiph or other imms forgot to take those gears in consideration, it is overlooked on their part. |
| 2023-08-01 20:42 | Diy | iso and buying negative mana gears :P |
| 2023-08-01 20:42 | Wolthu | u guys set cap in game, but gears in game says the difference |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Rairila | which lords have over 150k already in the game? |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Ebin | your max without gear shoyld be 156k right? |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Diy | darn |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Daeron | no |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Wolthu | as for casters its 177 mana |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Daeron | no, cap is 150k |
| 2023-08-01 20:41 | Wolthu | by the math of highest negative gears which is already in game to use, the max i could get to is 172k hp |
| 2023-08-01 20:40 | Chalu | if caps are 150k for each, then yes they were |
| 2023-08-01 20:40 | Rairila | pretty sure a hie wasn't intended to have 44k hps and 150k mana |
| 2023-08-01 20:40 | Xiphoid | no class was designed to solo at lord |
| 2023-08-01 20:40 | Wolthu | i can not solo, when will u guys understand, monks are not designed to solo |
| 2023-08-01 20:39 | Rairila | mutant levels are the only reason folks can solo |
| 2023-08-01 20:39 | Daeron | how dare you |
| 2023-08-01 20:39 | Daeron | look at the ripping we get for making changes.. take stuff away!? |
| 2023-08-01 20:39 | Daeron | ha wolthu is funny |
| 2023-08-01 20:38 | Daeron | I still see people soloing |
| 2023-08-01 20:38 | Wolthu | bottom line, those stuff which are provided in game are to be used to play the game, if u guys dont want those items to exist, just remove them |
| 2023-08-01 20:38 | Ebin | the gamr going to places it was never intended to go is no reason to keep it going that way |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Mabu | changes to crack down on mutants and lord soloing has absolutely led to players quitting |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Wolthu | since those changes imms did not long ago we lost good players, and now we are dealing with bad apples who complains |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Unreasonable | yup, miz quit too |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Nah | rip |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Diy | mizuno quit? |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Xiphoid | but mutant stats are the thing that enables soloing |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Daeron | I heard Tinacular was playing Zelda |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Ebin | so they will stop soloing alleg and stuff when thry hit mana cap? |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Unreasonable | tin already quit |
| 2023-08-01 20:37 | Esseldi | i think soloing bigger problem than mutant stats |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Diy | tin too |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Diy | caree and lupee |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Diy | i dont solo alleg... |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Ebin | we can try harder |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Rairila | the only reason diy and caree play is to get the cap - when that's done, they won't run unless it's absolutely required. |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Wolthu | whiners might push me away |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Daeron | Mabu says we are pushing you away |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Daeron | so you aren't pushed away from the game Wolthu because of the 150(ish)k cap? |
| 2023-08-01 20:36 | Ebin | not many people are gonna tell a tank with 100k hps to alt |
| 2023-08-01 20:35 | Wolthu | i alt to other alts when leader asks |
| 2023-08-01 20:35 | Mabu | nod, rairila. was an interesting approach to tackling mutant tanks |
| 2023-08-01 20:35 | Ebin | i wont run a tank with wolthu in group because what the hell is the point |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Mabu | gunglegort sure hasn't run a lot since that stat cap came in |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Rairila | % dmg from mobs was a great way to make lord sprite tanks great again |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Mabu | game is beyond balancing at this point and has a small playerbase. i don't understand the need to punish players which will eventually drive them off |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Ebin | thats a load of bull |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Xiphoid | *tip* |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Esseldi | at this point the game cant afford to push anymore people away no matter how afk they are so who cares at this point |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Mepharic | good evening xip |
| 2023-08-01 20:34 | Meroveus | yea problem is when those mutants the game balances around stop playing ...stuff can't get done :( |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Ebin | wow xiphoid is on |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Wolthu | if imms doesnt like the loophole, that applies to all gears that raise or remove any stats in whole game |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Xiphoid | the only reason it's not 100k is because some players were already over that when I added it |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Nah | because power creep having to account for 200k hps means that new lords can't keep up |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Rairila | I think limit should be 80k for hps, and 50k for mana |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Wolthu | the hp gear exists |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Keysar | or allow buying limit raises with qp |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | Ebin | 100k |
| 2023-08-01 20:33 | An immortal | hard to balance a game when the players can get gains forever |
| 2023-08-01 20:32 | Keysar | i think limit should be 200k or so |
| 2023-08-01 20:32 | Mabu | the shard areas had a great way of dealing with mutants. percentage of hp damage |
| 2023-08-01 20:32 | Ebin | because |
| 2023-08-01 20:32 | Mabu | why do we punish players for playing their favourite characters when there is no further way to progress in this game via a different tier? |
| 2023-08-01 20:32 | Ebin | nod, 156k is his 150k+4% insig |
| 2023-08-01 20:31 | Ebin | oh, so this is why dri have racial web |
| 2023-08-01 20:31 | An immortal | tell him if I find out he's exploiting a loophole to get more than 150k hp I may revert many gains |
| 2023-08-01 20:31 | An immortal | good point |
| 2023-08-01 20:30 | Melody | we're on a run so he's clearly afk |
| 2023-08-01 20:29 | An immortal | why you still leveling above 150k hps wolthu? |
| 2023-08-01 20:26 | Keysar | never said plane tart doh |
| 2023-08-01 20:26 | Smoky | why did you plane tart it's the portal at thorngate center |
| 2023-08-01 20:21 | Diy | oOOo |
| 2023-08-01 20:17 | Dojo | all my qp are all over the place |